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lsupride87
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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I'd have to agree. the top 3 is easy. I'm curious what your next 3 are.

Jimmie Fox
Gehrig
Trout


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Bestbank Tiger
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Top 3 hitters of all time

Ted Williams
Barry Bonds
Babe Ruth

You can order them how you see fit, depending on what you value most...but that’s the top tier. Any other answer is incorrect imo


Hammerin' Hank.

If you take away all his home runs he still has 3000 hits.


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RedHawk
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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His hitting stats and lack of Ks are ridiculous


Aaron Judge has 50 more strikeouts in his 358 game career than Tony Gwynn had in his entire 2,440 game career.


wahoocs
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
There's some great interviews with Gwynn and Williams where they discuss hitting. I'm sure they're easy to find on YouTube.

Williams argued that Gwynn should have been trying to hit for more power. And I think Gwynn reluctantly began to see what everyone now is taking for granted.

The game has evolved into what Ted Williams knew all along, for better or worse.

Worth mention is the fact that Ted Williams never had a check swing. Think about how ridiculous that is to comprehend.


KirkLazarus
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Worth mention is the fact that Ted Williams never had a check swing. Think about how ridiculous that is to comprehend.


Wait, serious question. Is this true? like for sure?


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Next 3


Tony Gwynn
Ty Cobb
Stan Musial or Willie Mays


and the surprising one, I honestly think Yogi Berra needs to be mentioned in the greats list. Only struck out 12 times in 600 at bats in 1950 and 5x had more home runs than strike outs in a season. Guy was a terrifying clutch hitter. Playing the most demanding position in baseball
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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482 career On base percentage
frozen in time.


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rilesrick
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
Rod Carew
Pete Rose
George Brett


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Coach Buzzcut
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
Barry Bonds had a .609 OBS in 2004
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TigerintheNO
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
In 1940, Williams' 2nd year in the league, the sacrifice fly was removed. It wasn't restored until the mid 50s.

So a vast majority of his career, including his prime, his average and on base percentage didn't have the benefit of the sac fly.


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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
"All I want out of life is that when I walk down the street, folks will say, 'There goes the greatest hitter that ever lived.'" - Ted Williams


“I always say that Ted needed another planet. You look at what he has accomplished. Ted Williams was one of the best fishermen, so he kind of conquered the seas. He’s one of the best baseball players, so he kind of conquered the land. He was an ace pilot, so he kind of conquered the air. So he’s kind of a man who’s outgrown this planet. He’s the real John Wayne.”
— Maureen Cronin, daughter of Red Sox manager Joe Cronin

Of all the things Ted told me, he said, ‘I’ve gotten all kinds of accolades in the baseball department, but the thing I’m most proud of was I was a good marine fighter pilot.’ He was so darned proud of being a marine.”
— Long-time friend Frank Cushing


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
Gwynn had 45 career four-hit games. He only had 34 multi-strikeout games

And he only struck out 3 times in a game once in his career


FightinTigersDammit
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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served as a Marine fighter pilot in both World War II and the Korean War.


Just picking a nit here. Ted did not see combat in WW2. He spent most of the war as a flight instructor. He did fly 39 combat missions in Korea and almost lost his ass.


wahoocs
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
Nobody he played with or against ever recall a check swing. He says he never did.

It was all part of his approach at the plate


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wahoocs
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
They didn’t mess around with an All Time great out there either.

Name his wingman


FightinTigersDammit
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Name his wingman


Sometimes Ted flew wing, sometimes John Glenn did. Glenn said Ted was a great natural pilot.


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gthog61
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Gwynn had 45 career four-hit games. He only had 34 multi-strikeout games

And he only struck out 3 times in a game once in his career


source of quote

“You just can’t do it,” (Greg) Maddux said. “Sometimes hitters can pick up differences in spin. They can identify pitches if there are different release points or if a curveball starts with an upward hump as it leaves the pitcher’s hand. But if a pitcher can change speeds, every hitter is helpless, limited by human vision.

“Except for that (expletive) Tony Gwynn.”





I Bleed Garnet
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
Gwynn faced Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, Pedro Martinez and John Smoltz a combined 323 times. He struck out only three times (two to Glavine, one to Smoltz and NEVER against Maddux or Pedro)


Tony Gwynn career vs:

Greg Maddux*
107 PA, .415 BA, 0 K

Tom Glavine
105 PA, .303 BA, 2 K

John Smoltz
75 PA, .444 BA, 1 K

Curt Schilling
43 PA, .390 BA, 2 K

Pedro Martinez
36 PA, .314 BA, 0 K

Dennis Eckersley
19 PA, .474 BA, 1 K

*faced more than any other pitcher


TigerintheNO
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Ted Williams was one of the best fishermen,


He is in the HOF for fishing.

Went with my wife to visit her grandfather in Florida, and some how we ended up in the Fisherman's HOF. Neither the wife nor I fish.
Walking through I see this plaque and his picture. I go "that's Ted Williams", grandfather's wife read the plaque and asked how did I know that. I like because "that's TED Williams"


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Turbeauxdog
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
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Tony Gwynn career vs:

Greg Maddux*
107 PA, .415 BA, 0 K

Tom Glavine
105 PA, .303 BA, 2 K

John Smoltz
75 PA, .444 BA, 1 K

Curt Schilling
43 PA, .390 BA, 2 K

Pedro Martinez
36 PA, .314 BA, 0 K

Dennis Eckersley
19 PA, .474 BA, 1 K

*faced more than any other pitcher


Mother of god....


mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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re: Ted Williams was a freak of nature - .482 career On base percentage
It's very telling that Williams had little kinships with baseball players but he had one with Tony.

Williams recognized how special he was and Gywnn said they would talk hitting.

It's no surprise that it was Gywnn that led Williams to the All-Star mound.


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