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re: TCU turns down Wisconsis rematch
Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:50 pm to GamecockAlum
Posted on 2/11/11 at 9:50 pm to GamecockAlum
You've failed to address why the AP, Coaches, and Harris Polls, as well as Billingsly, Massey, Wolfe, Anderson & Hester, Sagarin, and Colley all agree with me and disagree with you. Are they all mentally handicapped, too?
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Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:29 pm to xiv
You have go full on retard bruh. Can't even read.
Then again you actually think.... no you BELIEVE... that TCU was the third best college football team in America this past year.
Then again you actually think.... no you BELIEVE... that TCU was the third best college football team in America this past year.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:32 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:Well....
According to whom?
Cosgrove: TCU - 82, Wisconsin - 83, Oregon - 64, Ohio State - 51, Kentucky - 66
Jeff Saragin: TCU - 76, Wisconsin - 66, Ohio State - 70, Kentucky - 63
Massey Rankings: Out of 122 polls, only ONE has Wisonsin above TCU and the average has them at #2 behind Auburn.
How about ESPN? LINK
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The Ducks have played FBS teams that are a combined 11-20. Boise State has played FBS teams that are a combined 16-24. TCU has played FBS teams that are a combined 18-23. Look at the road ahead: Oregon has teams that are a combined 22-15 left on its schedule. Boise State: 23-16. TCU: 16-16.
From a purely SoS standpoint, I find it very interesting that Kentucky, from the SEC, struggles with SoS.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:45 pm to GeauxTigersLee
The hell kind of formula are those guys using? Are they just using OCC? There is no way on God's green earth that TCU's schedule is that close to Wisconsin's. Are they valuing wins over the 4th team in the MWC the same as the wins over the 4th team in the Big Ten? They must be looking at wins and losses in a vacuum without any consideration to the talent on the field.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:50 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:What? Here is how the coaches voted before the bowl games (and before TCU beat Wisconsin). LINK Only Idaho's coach voted them #1, but put Boise State 14th. Lowest they were ranked was 6th by 1 coach - Ron Zook, but he voted OSU, Michigan St, and Wisconsin 3rd, 4th, and 5th. That's an agenda.
Who would guess that Non-BCS coaches would overrate TCU? No agenda there.
Most BCS conference coaches voted TCU 3rd behind Auburn and Oregon. What's the agenda on that?
quote:More reliable than opinions when teams don't actually meet on the field.....especially when they all pretty much agree that TCU is top 3.
Computers? Always reliable.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:59 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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Ron Zook, but he voted OSU, Michigan St, and Wisconsin 3rd, 4th, and 5th. That's an agenda.
And considering what we knew Pre-bowls, I have no problem with that.
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Most BCS conference coaches voted TCU 3rd behind Auburn and Oregon. What's the agenda on that?
You do realize that very few coaches actually look at their ballots right? They probably look at the number one and two teams and then place their team and that's it. This isn't a rumor either, coaches have said as much.
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More reliable than opinions when teams don't actually meet on the field.....especially when they all pretty much agree that TCU is top 3.
Do the computers measure the actual quality of opponents? Do they know the talent levels? Do they actually watch the games. If anyone really believes that TCU was a better team than Oklahoma, Stanford, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas, then they are a straight up dumbass who has no knowledge of the game of college football. No one in their right mind would truly believe that they even remotely played a similar schedule or proved themselves as much as those teams did.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:09 pm to GamecockAlum
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Are they valuing wins over the 4th team in the MWC the same as the wins over the 4th team in the Big Ten?
Certainly these are not the criteria, and you can look up the basic formulas for the rankings.
It is ironic though that the 4th best MWC team SDSU was 9-4 and the 4th best Big 10 was 8-5 with two of those loses coming to the bottom dwelling NW and Minn?
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:11 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:If that was the case then the SEC's schedule wouldn't be that much better than the Big 10 schedule. Even Michigan played a much tougher schedule than Wisconsin.
Are they valuing wins over the 4th team in the MWC the same as the wins over the 4th team in the Big Ten?
Wisconsin's OOC schedule:
UNLV (2-11) - only wins against 1-11 and 3-9 teams (non-BCS school)
San Jose St (1-11) - lost to FCS school that went 6-5 (non-BCS school)
Arizona St (6-6) - 6 wins despite 2 of those wins against FCS schools
Austin Peay (2-9) - only wins against 2 FCS schools (non-BCS school)
And the rest of the Big 10 (outside Ohio State and Michigan State) is extremely weak. Teams like Minnesota who lost to a FCS team (who went 4-7) and went 1-2 vs non-BCS schools on their way to 3-9 record.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:17 pm to GamecockAlum
quote:You claim non-BCS coaches have an agenda regarding their ballot and when I show that to be untrue, you come back and say very few even look at their ballots?
You do realize that very few coaches actually look at their ballots right? They probably look at the number one and two teams and then place their team and that's it. This isn't a rumor either, coaches have said as much.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:29 pm to GamecockAlum
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Do the computers measure the actual quality of opponents? Do they know the talent levels? Do they actually watch the games. If anyone really believes that TCU was a better team than Oklahoma, Stanford, Ohio State, Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas, then they are a straight up dumbass who has no knowledge of the game of college football.
The same was said for Wisconsin:
LINK, LINK, LINK.
Oklahoma, Stanford, Ohio State, LSU, Bama - all would be a very good game imo
Arkansas - lost to OSU, who lost to Wisconsin, who lost to TCU.
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:29 pm to Bleeding purple
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It is ironic though that the 4th best MWC team SDSU was 9-4
SDSU was 3rd (they defeated Air Force head to head). They also lost to the 4th team in the Big 12 head to head.
Your number two team's other loss was to Notre Dame - the same Notre Dame that was defeated by 3 vs Michigan State, 4 vs. Michigan, one by TULSA, 23 by Stanford, and 18 by NAVY- by 25.
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the 4th best Big 10 was 8-5 with two of those loses coming to the bottom dwelling NW and Minn?
Minnesota was a bottom dweller, but Northwestern went to a bowl brah. That's irrelevant because all 5 of Iowa's losses were to BCS teams and 4 of those 5 teams went to bowls.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 12:51 am to GeauxTigersLee
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Yet TCUs schedule last year was 1 spot different than Wisconsin's.
What is with the Wisconsin infatuation?
I have little to no respect for their program. They constantly underachieve.
Besides, I wasn't talking about just this year, Big Lee. The fact that before they beat Wisc in the Rose bowl, they hung their hat on the victory over a 4 or 5 loss OKLA team 5 years. That alone says enough.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:05 am to Lester Earl
quote:A common phrase uttered by those who have no argument.
That alone says enough.
Again, to you and GamecockAlum:
Why do the following agree with me and disagree with you?:
Associated Press Poll
Coaches Poll
Harris Interactive Poll
Jeff Sagarin
Kenneth Massey
Anderson & Hester
Colley Matrix
Richard Billingsley
Peter Wolfe
Why do those--ie, everyone on earth who matters--side with me and against you two?
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:06 am to RunningbackUftw
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They would have beaten South Carolina without much difficulty.
at what? Cricket? We would have pillaged their asses in football. Who would tackle Lattimore? Whose going to cover Alshon? We have more speed than they do and significantly more size. If you are going to compare their amount of raw talent then compare it to a team they actually match up well against... like Kentucky, Ole Miss, or Vanderbilt. They could actually beat those teams. The rest of the SEC would love to have that shitfest of a schedule because they could play their back-ups for 3-4 games a year and still do just as well as TCU did. Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:08 am to xiv
huh?
ill to admit, i have no idea what you are talking about now.
what do those names agree with you about, again?
ill to admit, i have no idea what you are talking about now.
what do those names agree with you about, again?
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:09 am to GamecockAlum
quote:
We would have pillaged their asses in football.
This year?
Absolutely not.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:11 am to Lester Earl
quote:TCU is one of the elite programs in the country.
huh?
ill to admit, i have no idea what you are talking about now.
what do those names agree with you about, again?
The nine sources I cited are the Associated Press poll and the eight factors in the BCS rating system. Only Sagarin had TCU ranked outside the top three this year, and he had them in the top 10. TCU has finished in the top 10 in the BCS three years in a row.
Why do all these sources agree with me and disagree with you? Are you right and all of us wrong?
This post was edited on 2/12/11 at 1:12 am
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:22 am to BayouBengals03
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This year?
Absolutely not.
We play them in a 10 game series, 5 at their join and 5 at Willie B, we take 9 of them at worst. Garcia is good for a frick up, but you can't honestly say that were aren't the clear superior team athletically, skill-wise and coaching wise. We are flat out superior to them on the football field. The difference? We don't get to play MWC teams week in and week out.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:23 am to xiv
quote:
TCU is one of the elite programs in the country.
Who else is elite? Name'm all.
Posted on 2/12/11 at 1:23 am to GamecockAlum
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We play them in a 10 game series, 5 at their join and 5 at Willie B, we take 9 of them at worst.
Jesus Christ.
You think South Carolina could take Wisconsin 9 out of 10 times?
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