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re: Stephen A.'s Comments on Stevie Williams - "He IS A CADDIE!!"

Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:25 am to
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23041 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:25 am to
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He needs to grow up.


He needs to get fired and realize how sweet of a job he actually had!
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:26 am to
And in someways that comfortableness is sometimes taken for granted on a golf course by golfers.
This post was edited on 8/8/11 at 9:31 am
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:28 am to
I hate when they take it for granite.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:30 am to
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I hate when they take it for granite.


It's really hard.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:31 am to
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He needs to get fired and realize how sweet of a job he actually had!



Well it looks like he may have a sweet job with Scott from the looks of this past weekend.
Posted by Sherman Klump
Wellman College
Member since Jul 2011
4565 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:31 am to
haha my fault guys, trying to type quickly at work and actually do some work.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216037 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:33 am to
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but I know for a fact that Tiger worked his rear off practicing golf.



And I have never said otherwise. He is a tireless worker and has/had a passion for the game like I have never seen before, However, His body is breaking down and wherther you like it or not steve had a major effect on Tigers game.
Posted by COTiger
Colorado
Member since Dec 2007
16844 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:37 am to
How did Steve have a major effect on Tiger's game? Was he giving him swing tips between shots? He very seldom read putts. Other than carry the bag and walk off yardages, what did he do?
Posted by lsugolf1105
BR
Member since Aug 2008
3443 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:38 am to
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steve had a major effect on Tigers game.


um, no. tiger has won at every level. it's not like he started winning when steve came along.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23041 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:46 am to
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His body is breaking down and wherther you like it or not steve had a major effect on Tigers game.


How does this go together? Tiger's body was good he was great. Tiger's body falls apart so does his game. What does Williams have do with it?
Posted by LouisianaSatNight
Baltimore, MD
Member since Dec 2010
913 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 9:56 am to
Caddying is definitely much harder than people realize.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:04 am to
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Posted by LouisianaSatNight
Caddying is definitely much harder than people realize.




How many majors does Tiger win wout Stevie? 2 less 3 less?

Come on it's the guy carrying a bag. I wonder if Stevie can shoot for par
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216037 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:05 am to
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Come on it's the guy carrying a bag. I wonder if Stevie can shoot for par



Ok. then if CADDIES are so unimportant, let the players carry their own shite. Its pretty simple.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:07 am to
Adam Scott was always trying to break through and all off a sudden he comes out and wins. He obviously did help but with that said Adam Scott played the golf but Stevie will bring him to new heights.
Posted by bomber77
Member since Aug 2008
14783 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:10 am to
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Stephen A.'s Comments on Stevie Williams - "He IS A CADDIE!!"


I totally agree with SA on this one. fricking Stevie ought to shut up. Pathetic
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:10 am to
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Come on it's the guy carrying a bag. I wonder if Stevie can shoot for par


Ok. then if CADDIES are so unimportant, let the players carry their own shite. Its pretty simple.


I love how you guys take a debate and go straight for the greatest irrelevancy. It doesn't matter how valuable (within a rational range of possibilities) a caddy is to his player's success. It is still a gross breach of loyalty and ethical behavior for him to (i) trash the guy responsible for whatever wealth he has been able to accumulate and not squander and (ii) take advantage of his current employer's success, less than 5 minutes after the win, to push his own grudge with Woods. Regardless of how good a caddy he is, and regardless of what he may have contributed to Scott's win, he's still too much of a loose cannon to trust with that job.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:11 am to
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Ok. then if CADDIES are so unimportant, let the players carry their own shite. Its pretty simple.


Or u could just be smart and realize that since everyone has a caddie the impact of a caddie is pretty small, almost inconsequential

If that had happened though, I see it only benefitting Tiger. For most of his prime tiger was by far the most in shape guy on the tour.

Carrying their own bag would have killed Phil, Daly, etc.

Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:13 am to
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but Stevie will bring him to new heights.




For example?? Is he going to win multiple majors now?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216037 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:15 am to
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Is he going to win multiple majors now?



Very possible. So If he wins this week, I guess Steve will have not made ANY impact????
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5292 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 10:16 am to
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Or u could just be smart and realize that since everyone has a caddie the impact of a caddie is pretty small, almost inconsequential


A good caddie is probably worth 2-4 shots per average in each tournament, sometimes more. A bad caddie will lead to a lot of missed cuts. 2 shots is a lot of money on tour.

The people who say a caddie is inconsequential have never played at a high level.
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