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So the NFL wants to incentivize teams to hire a minority coach?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:25 pm
What kind of society are we living in when we give someone something because of the color of there skin alone? Not because of there knowledge, accolades, experience, etc. No no, we will hire this guy/girl just because they check a box and we get drafts picks because of it. What in the frick
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:26 pm to Tshiz
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What kind of society are we living in when we give someone something because of the color of there skin alone?
I mean it’s not like teams would be just hiring some random black guy from their neighborhood
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:33 pm to wildtigercat93
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I mean it’s not like teams would be just hiring some random black guy from their neighborhood
Right.
The rule came into being in 2002 because in a league dominated by African American players, there were only 6 black head coaches in the 35 Super Bowl years.
Even post Rooney Rule, it's not like the hiring process has been bad to white candidates compared to the player demographics, and most coaches tend to be ex-players.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:36 pm to Tshiz
If only there was a thread already on the first page talking about this...
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:44 pm to Tshiz
If you're black and you're qualified for a job position, would you want to work for a racist owner because the government forces the owner to hire you? Wouldn't you rather look for another position where the owner hires you on his free will because he wants to?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:52 pm to Tshiz
can we do this for cornerbacks?
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:53 pm to PeteRose
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If you're black and you're qualified for a job position, would you want to work for a racist owner because the government forces the owner to hire you? Wouldn't you rather look for another position where the owner hires you on his free will because he wants to?
If it's a regular job with thousands of similar positions but when it's 32 it's a bit more desperate. Also, they're not exactly beating the door down to offer black coaches NFL HC jobs. You might be passing on your only shot.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:58 pm to PeteRose
Most racist owners aren't in the Klan and burning crosses at practice its more soft racism or mostly you hire who you know and if you don't hire any black coaches, well you don't hire any rise cycle repeat.
when you hire a guys like Kingsbury that got fired for losing at a mediocre college program while the OC of the reigning SB Champs doesn't get a sniff, something looks bad.
when you hire a guys like Kingsbury that got fired for losing at a mediocre college program while the OC of the reigning SB Champs doesn't get a sniff, something looks bad.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 3:59 pm to Champs
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can we do this for cornerbacks?
tell me the black CB that's like Kingbury and still gets a job and the white CN that's like Eric Bienemy (sp?)
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:02 pm to Champs
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can we do this for cornerbacks?
League would have way more passing yards.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:03 pm to PeteRose
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If you're black and you're qualified for a job position, would you want to work for a racist owner because the government forces the owner to hire you?
1.) this has nothing to do with the government
2.) yes
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:04 pm to H-Town Tiger
The cardinals are retarded anyway. They drafted a midget no 1 overall
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:06 pm to Tshiz
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The cardinals are retarded anyway.
that's no consolation to the coaches that get passed over.
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They drafted a midget no 1 overall
I see, you're not too bright either
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:12 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I see, you're not to bright either
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:14 pm to H-Town Tiger
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when you hire a guys like Kingsbury that got fired for losing at a mediocre college program while the OC of the reigning SB Champs doesn't get a sniff, something looks bad.
If Kliff were black, the idiots on this board would be screaming affirmative action hire.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 4:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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when you hire a guys like Kingsbury that got fired for losing at a mediocre college program while the OC of the reigning SB Champs doesn't get a sniff, something looks bad.
Right. No one's mad at the Patriots for keeping Bill Belichick. Guys like Kingsbury getting jobs when Bienemy doesn't is different.
The NFL's never had a great track record. The Rooney Rule happened in 2002 after Tony Dungy got fired with a winning record and Dennis Green got fired after one losing season in the previous 10 years.
It may be more cronyism with hiring HC's, but heck, Marvin Lewis is the winningest HC in Bengals history. He took over a 2-14 team, gave them their most consistently good team in franchise history, then they fade to 2-14 when he's let go.
Marvin Lewis doesn't have an NFL job, but Kliff Kingsbury does.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:02 pm to Rep520
After 5 straight winning seasons and playoff appearances but no wins, Lewis went 6-9-1, 7-9, 6-10 and got fired. Now that's not unreasonable in and of itself, maybe it was time to move on but contrast that with Jeff Fisher. Who went 13-3 in 2008, lost in the division round has 2 losing seasons and gets fired by the Titans. After just 1 year out he gets hired by the Rams and goes 7-8-1, 1-9, 6-10, 7-9, 4-9 when he;s fired by the Rams. There's a reason July 9th is called Jeff Fisher day
Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:08 pm to Rep520
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It may be more cronyism with hiring HC's, but heck, Marvin Lewis is the winningest HC in Bengals history. He took over a 2-14 team, gave them their most consistently good team in franchise history, then they fade to 2-14 when he's let go.
Marvin Lewis doesn't have an NFL job, but Kliff Kingsbury does.
marvin lewis is the definition of mediocrity for a VERY long time.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:12 pm to Rep520
quote:The Chargers fired Marty Schottenheimer after 3 straight winning seasons and a 14-2 record in his last year
The NFL's never had a great track record. The Rooney Rule happened in 2002 after Tony Dungy got fired with a winning record and Dennis Green got fired after one losing season in the previous 10 years.
Posted on 5/15/20 at 5:12 pm to Tshiz
I thought we were past treating people differently because of the color of their skin.
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