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re: So, Goran Dragic leads all SGs in PER
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:07 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:07 am to PrimeTime Money
he only started 28 of 66 games in Houston
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Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:09 am to PrimeTime Money
Your logic is awful. Dragic has had a better season, so he's more deserving. Doesn't mean I don't think Dwight won't be better going forward if I'm starting a team. Doesn't mean I don't think a top 3 center is less valuable than the league's current most efficient shooting guard. It means he's had a more impressive year and deserves to be recognized for it.
And Boogie Cousins is better than Dwight.
And Boogie Cousins is better than Dwight.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:16 am to Epic Cajun
quote:I haven't really seen him play. But going by stats you could certainly make that argument.
Do you agree or disagree that he's had the best season for a SG, thus far?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:17 am to sunnydaze
quote:So?
he only started 28 of 66 games in Houston
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:18 am to MrBlue105
The more days that pass, the more I think he should be in the all star game.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:22 am to TotesMcGotes
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And Boogie Cousins is better than Dwight.
No Dwight is much better defensively and is a better rebounder. Cousins scores 4 points more on 5 more shots. His PER his better bc of his usage rate. Dwight has a higher offensive rating and a higher defensive rating.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:22 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:Dragic is only averaging 1.6 more points per game more than Howard and can't compete with what Dwight brings in terms of defense and rebounding.
Your logic is awful. Dragic has had a better season, so he's more deserving. Doesn't mean I don't think Dwight won't be better going forward if I'm starting a team. Doesn't mean I don't think a top 3 center is less valuable than the league's current most efficient shooting guard. It means he's had a more impressive year and deserves to be recognized for it. And Boogie Cousins is better than Dwight.
So I don't see how you can make the argument that he deserves to be in over Dwight if we are picking and choosing and not taking position into account.
Dragic over Harden is a better argument.
And as for Cousins, answer me this.. how is his defense?
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:22 am to MrBlue105
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He's more deserving than Lillard imo. The guy's hitting everything.
Agreed. We've already won 5 more games then last year and have won 60% of our games (30-20) and have beat the Pacers twice, among other bigs wins and it's because of the Dragon. Arguably our best player (Bledsoe) has been out for half of the season now. Plain and simple, Dragic has been the man this season and deserves to be in Nola.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:23 am to PrimeTime Money
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Do you agree or disagree that he's had the best season for a SG, thus far?
He's a PG.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:25 am to Boomshockalocka
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He's a PG.
He's naturally a PG, but is our SG this year. He has been playing pure PG since Bledsoe got injured tho.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:27 am to Nashty
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He has been playing pure PG since Bledsoe got injured tho
Yea that's been over half the season.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:30 am to Boomshockalocka
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Yea that's been over half the season.
Yeah, I know, I'm not arguing with you...but if you're going to gage his numbers as a PG, you can't really look at his assist numbers without taking out the first 20 games when he was the SG.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:30 am to Boomshockalocka
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He's a PG.
He's played both PG and SG this season. Basically equal time, Bledsoe has been out for half of the games.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:37 am to PrimeTime Money
Are you saying that Dragic can't protect the rim and rebound as well as Dwight? Well no shite. Dwight isn't as good because he can't assist and steal the ball as well as Dragic.
And Cousins' defense isn't bad. He doesn't protect the rim as well as Dwight, but he makes up for it a bit with steals. Dwight only averages .5 more blocks per game.
And Cousins' defense isn't bad. He doesn't protect the rim as well as Dwight, but he makes up for it a bit with steals. Dwight only averages .5 more blocks per game.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:47 am to TotesMcGotes
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And Cousins' defense isn't bad. He doesn't protect the rim as well as Dwight, but he makes up for it a bit with steals
People don't stay away from the paint in fear that Cousins will steal the ball from them.
I do love both Cousins and Dragic though. Along with Westbrook, they are my favorite players in the league who aren't Rockets.
ETA: I missed where you said "a bit". Carry on.
This post was edited on 2/11/14 at 10:49 am
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:49 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:1. Dwight has a bigger impact on a game due to rebounding and defense than Dragic does with assists and steals. It's due to the nature of the position, but since you are comparing a center to a SG, it doesn't matter.
Are you saying that Dragic can't protect the rim and rebound as well as Dwight? Well no shite. Dwight isn't as good because he can't assist and steal the ball as well as Dragic. And Cousins' defense isn't bad. He doesn't protect the rim as well as Dwight, but he makes up for it a bit with steals. Dwight only averages .5 more blocks per game.
2. Cousins' defense isn't anywhere near Dwight's. To suggest he makes up for it by averaging 0.8 more steals per game is laughably ridiculous.
3. The fact that you are even mentioning that Dwight averages only 0.5 more blocks per game as if that is an accurate measure of defensive impact shows your lack of basketball knowledge.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:50 am to PortCityTiger24
I couldn't quote my original post and underline "a bit" fast enough. I was definitely ready to point that out. Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:50 am to TotesMcGotes
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:52 am to PrimeTime Money
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1. Dwight has a bigger impact on a game due to rebounding and defense than Dragic does with assists and steals. It's due to the nature of the position, but since you are comparing a center to a SG, it doesn't matter.
I actually 100% agree with you. You can count on 1 hand the amount of good/great centers in the NBA today while there are countless awesome SG/PG in the league.
Posted on 2/11/14 at 10:56 am to PrimeTime Money
Dude you just went on a useless rant. I said Dwight was better. I said Cousins' d isn't bad.
Let's not forget that we're here because you challenged my assertion that Dragic should be in the ASG over Dwight by asking who I would take if I were building a team today.
Let's not forget that we're here because you challenged my assertion that Dragic should be in the ASG over Dwight by asking who I would take if I were building a team today.
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