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re: Serena Williams & PED

Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:26 pm to
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:26 pm to
And your evidence to support this claim is???
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:32 pm to
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This is hysterical. Serena is the best womens player ever.

Of course she is, but that's why she should be so ashamed that she will never surpass Graf and Court. Martina Navratilova is another tennis player who carried too much weight at the beginning of her career, but then she got serious about her fitness and she started dominating. However, Martina didn't have Serena's talent. There's no reason why Serena wouldn't have won 30 Grand Slams if she had taken her fitness as serious as say, Sanya Richards, Lolo Jones or Jessica Ennis.

Here's how Jason Whitlock put it a few years ago:

"Think about it. At 5-foot-9, 145 pounds, Serena would be unstoppable on the court, on the cover of every magazine still in circulation and downloaded on the Internet three times more often than Anna Kournikova.
Instead, Serena is arguably pushing 175 pounds, content playing hard only in the major tournaments, happy to be photographed on dates with pro athletes and proud to serve as a role model for women with oversized back packs."


Compare Serena to Ennis and tell me what you think.






Posted by Big_Cock_Fan
Columbia, SC
Member since Jun 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:53 pm to
My pic proves that she takes PED...
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:30 pm to
I like Serena and think that she gets a bad rap from American fans and television commentators and any chip that she has on her shoulder over it is justified.
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bullshite, she gets her "attitude" from her father, plain and simple.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:37 pm to
She's a Big Foot, Gus.

Every time I see Serena or Venus, I think ... Gooney Goo Goo.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 10:54 pm to
I don't lump Venus with Serena. IMO, Venus has a lot more class than her sister.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6851 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:20 pm to
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Serena is arguably pushing 275 pounds


FIFJ (Fixed it for Jason)

Arguably pushing 175 my arse. I'd guess she goes over 200. Just look at the picture of her in the swimsuit. She is HUGE.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:30 pm to
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Arguably pushing 175 my arse. I'd guess she goes over 200. Just look at the picture of her in the swimsuit. She is HUGE.

Can you imagine how dominant she would have been at 145 pounds?
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6851 posts
Posted on 8/9/13 at 11:46 pm to
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Can you imagine how dominant she would have been at 145 pounds?


Or maybe her strength and power have been what's made her great. She wouldn't be hitting 129 MPH serves at 145 and she's not exactly fat.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 5:36 am to
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enormous booty







Serena and Kate Uptan would tear up a buffet.
This post was edited on 8/10/13 at 5:41 am
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:27 am to
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But to say she is more dominant now than in 2003 when she rattled off four straight majors is to make a stupid statement that you should feel stupid for making. Oh PARDON ME, sir! I didn't mean to offend you. Will you forgive me?


You didn't offend me, you just said something that was dumb and I told you about it.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:27 am to
She's a Big Foot, Gus.

Every time I see Serena or Venus, I think ... Gooney Goo Goo.

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Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:29 am to
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remember when Pete Sampras was serving 120 mph back in the early 90's and that was blazing fast. Of course she is doping. Look at her.


There is no correlation between doping and serve speed.

Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:31 am to
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guably pushing 175 my arse. I'd guess she goes over 200. Just look at the picture of her in the swimsuit. She is HUGE.


Not when she's in shape.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:36 am to
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Based on the fact that she takes PED's


Well then that settles it. Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:43 am to
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Or maybe her strength and power have been what's made her great. She wouldn't be hitting 129 MPH serves at 145 and she's not exactly fat.

Why do you think she would lose power at 145 pounds? Excess body fat doesn't increase strength and power.
Posted by RedMustang
Member since Oct 2011
6851 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 8:56 am to
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Why do you think she would lose power at 145 pounds? Excess body fat doesn't increase strength and power.


Extra mass and strength would account for more power. On average, who hits serves faster, men or women? Who hits baseballs farther, small guys or big guys. How about long drive champions? Hardest slap shots?
I know there are exceptions, but more size and strength equates to more velocity in "swinging" sports.
At a lighter weight, she would be quicker and get to more balls.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 9:02 am to
Are we seriously comparing fitness pics from a woman on a beach vacation to a contest photo from a woman who runs track and field?!?
Posted by Dinkle
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
1180 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 9:21 am to
Nothing worse than a woman who thinks she's fine, but she's really nasty as frick.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 8/10/13 at 10:39 am to
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Nothing worse than a woman who thinks she's fine, but she's really nasty as frick.


I agree with this as a general principle.

And while Serena has let herself go a little bit at times (see beach picture), she is far from nasty when in playing shape. If you wouldn't have sex with the female depicted below, then you're into dudes.



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