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re: Russell Wilson vs Lamar Jackson 2023
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
Ravens O line is way better than the Broncos O line
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
Josh Allen isn’t winning MVP
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:18 am to lsupride87
Numbers can lie. If you watch the two offenses one is productive and one isn't. Derek Carr is a great example. Decent number but the offense is so stagnant.
Lamar has been steady all year and is getting better. Wilson has been good numbers wise but the offense has simply not produced. Is this Wilson's fault? Maybe not.
I commend Payton for making the change. Some Dennis Allen wouldnt dream if doing unfortunately.
Lamar has been steady all year and is getting better. Wilson has been good numbers wise but the offense has simply not produced. Is this Wilson's fault? Maybe not.
I commend Payton for making the change. Some Dennis Allen wouldnt dream if doing unfortunately.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:21 am to winkchance
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Wilson plays defense?
I think he was insinuating he had to throw it around a lot when down by that much and likely saw backups on defense for a few drives.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:38 am to ReauxlTide222
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Thanks, shel
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:43 am to lsupride87
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So there are 6 QBs better and they are touting him as MVP?
Yep! Because he’s black
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:01 pm to lsupride87
For some reason the media wants Lamar to be the face of the NFL along with Mahomes but Mahomes isn’t having the best year. I guess that’s why they are on the Lamar train this year.
Haven’t compared Bakers stats with Lamar’s but I would bet Bakers are better.
CMC is the MVP and the only person close is Hill.
Haven’t compared Bakers stats with Lamar’s but I would bet Bakers are better.
CMC is the MVP and the only person close is Hill.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
Lamar is better, do you even watch the games
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:19 pm to lsupride87
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QBs only face the other teams defense
This right is just another feather in the cap of you not knowing what you're talking about. As usual.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:25 pm to whatiknowsofar
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QBs only face the other teams defense
quote:Please tell me how this isn’t correct when talking of QBs success rate
This right is just another feather in the cap of you not knowing what you're talking about. As usual.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:28 pm to BayouBaw84
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Haven’t compared Bakers stats with Lamar’s but I would bet Bakers are better.
Baker
64.3%—3548 passing yards—157 rushing yards—26 passing tds—1 rushing TD—8 ints—96.2 passer rating
Lamar
66.3%—3357 passing yards—786 rushing yards—19 passing tds—5 rushing tds—7ints—97.2 passer rating
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:29 pm to lsupride87
Instead of bashing Lamar by letting the media brainwash you, how about you talk more about who you think will win it.. you are acting like a little child with your hate of Lamar.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:30 pm to dukke v
Why does posting his stats equate to hating him? I have no ill will at all to Lamar.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:31 pm to lsupride87
quote:Basically the same . So should Baker be in the MVP discussion?
Baker 64.3%—3548 passing yards—157 rushing yards—26 passing tds—1 rushing TD—8 ints—96.2 passer rating Lamar 66.3%—3357 passing yards—786 rushing yards—19 passing tds—5 rushing tds—7ints—97.2 passer rating
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:32 pm to lsupride87
Bull crap…..
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:32 pm to lsupride87
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Please tell me how this isn’t correct when talking of QBs success rate
Please tell me qbs play the same when their defense is holding the other teams offense vs getting into shootouts. I'm sure offensive philosophy doesn't change lol
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:55 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:In that case, playing a bad defensive opponent who has a high ranked offense should be great for QB stats correct?
Please tell me qbs play the same when their defense is holding the other teams offense vs getting into shootouts. I'm sure offensive philosophy doesn't change lol
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:00 pm to lsupride87
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playing a bad defensive opponent who has a high ranked offense should be great for QB stats correct?
You're so close to figuring this out.
Playing with an elite defense should lead to a qb not having to do as much, correct?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:03 pm to lsupride87
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66.3%—3357 passing yards 19 passing tds
the QB position in the NFL has fell off
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:14 pm to whatiknowsofar
quote:So, the defense is the MVP, not the QB.
Playing with an elite defense should lead to a qb not having to do as much, correct?
If your defense is elite and your QB doesn’t have to do much to win games, in what way is the QB the most valuable player on the team?
That is a situation where the QB’s abilities become overinflated, something we see often when backups play amazing, are ultimately traded away, and show that they actually stink, something we’ve seen many times over the years.
This isn’t to say that Lamar sucks, but to point out that elite defenses overinflate the perception of QBs.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 1:19 pm
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