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re: Runner s on First and Second…..

Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:56 am to
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:56 am to
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You’re assuming 100% efficacy of the bunt, which you can’t do


The never bunters assume every bunt called would have been a base bit or XBH had the coach not taken the bat out of the hitters hands so why can’t I?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 11:58 am to
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The never bunters assume every bunt called would have been a base bit or XBH had the coach not taken the bat out of the hitters hands so why can’t I?


Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:07 pm to
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or 12
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6864 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 12:10 pm to
Help me out here. What am I missing?
Posted by witty alias
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 6:27 pm to
And assuming the same outcome would have happened if the bunt had been successful.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 7:46 am to
Absolutes are dumb. Every rule needs context, such as “I’m bunting and playing for 1-2 runs in the fourth inning of a scoreless 2023 CWS game featuring Paul Skenes and Brett Lowder.”

But for the most part, bunting before the seventh inning lowers run expectancy of the inning and win expectancy for the game. The people who get mad because a power hitter strikes out or doesn’t hit the ball to the right side of the infield in the fourth inning with runners at first and second and none out just frustrate me to no end. You’re better off with that dude trying to hit one in a gap somewhere or over the fence to score 2-3 runs than having him bunt so that a lesser hitter can try to drive him home.

Some pro-bunters know a lot of baseball. I know one of them. But I can’t watch baseball with him because he played high school baseball in the ‘60s and has a lot of outdated theories about bunting and giving yourself up by hitting a ground ball to the right side. The game has changed. Batting average and pitcher wins were once revered and now, thankfully, they’re secondary considerations when evaluating the success of a player in the way the game is played today.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 7:52 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 9:14 am to
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Batting average and pitcher wins were once revered and now, thankfully, they’re secondary considerations when evaluating the success of a player in the way the game is played today.


Pitching wins still have value on an average team... on good or bad teams I can see where it's skewed though.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:14 pm to
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