I'm not going to say anyone is stupid because everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I can see how people believe the game is boring because honestly if you have 2 pitchers throwing strikes and striking out batter there isn't a lot if action. It is more of the intense feeling of waiting for the batter to do something to beat a pitcher.

In all sports you could say strategy is a crap shoot/gamble based in numbers. In basketball a coach can draw up a play and the players can alter it at any given time, you also may only have 1 player dominate the ball with 4 others just standing around waiting for something to happen. I find basketball to be extremely boring to watch, I would watch soccer above it actually.

As far as the season being long, the length of the season and post season last as long as the NBA and NFL. Mainly because teams play every single day and may only get 1 day off a week. I've shown this before and while I still think MLB should drop a few games and drop back down to 154 games but even then people would complain.

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Posted by rutiger

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 9:40 am to Korkstand

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And there is no real strategy to it... you can't devise a winning game plan. Throw the ball, hope they don't hit it. Or, if they do hit it, hope it goes toward your guys. Hit the ball and hope it doesn't go toward their guys. And hope that the times you do hit the ball are somewhat bunched together.

You know how i know you know nothing about baseball....

Looks like somebody got cut from their little league team and still hasnt come to terms with it.

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Posted by cornhat

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 9:48 am to UFownstSECsince1950

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Since the luxury tax penalty began in 2003, the Yankees have paid $252.7 million of the $285.1 million (88.6%) in taxes paid by all MLB teams.

Well...it's the most American game.

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Posted by POCKET

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 9:50 am to Korkstand

I played baseball and love it but I can see how it can be boring to some. I'll even admit I get bored with it alot. But I'd be surprised if you knew much about baseball at all if you think there isn't much strategy involved

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Posted by Korkstand

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 4:00 pm to rutiger

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You know how i know you know nothing about baseball....

I know more than I let on.

You guys can try to convince yourselves that strategy makes a difference in baseball all you want, but that doesn't make it true. A millisecond or a millimeter difference in the swing of the bat is the difference between an inning-ending double play or a base-clearing double. A millisecond turns a couple of routine outs into half the scoring of a typical game. The absolute worst baseball strategy with the aid of that lucky millisecond will beat the best strategy or "game plan" almost every time.

You pitch, you bat, and you go through the motions in the field, and then you hope that after 162 games you employed the right "strategies" to win more games than the other guys did with their lucky bounces.

Skill, execution, strategy, and luck. Which of those 4 plays the largest role in an MLB game?

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Posted by BCMCubs

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 4:14 pm to Korkstand

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Skill, execution, strategy, and luck. Which of those 4 plays the largest role in an MLB game?

If a pitcher fails to execute a pitch at the location he wants, an MLB hitter doesn't get "lucky" and have his bat run into the ball. He uses his skill to hit it.

Lucky bounces certainly play a part don't get me wrong. Ball bounces here or there can make a difference from time to time. To insinuate that luck plays the largest part in a baseball team's success is incorrect in my opinion.

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Posted by Korkstand

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 5:26 pm to BCMCubs

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If a pitcher fails to execute a pitch at the location he wants, an MLB hitter doesn't get "lucky" and have his bat run into the ball. He uses his skill to hit it.

I'm glad you made an argument for skill and not strategy, because you won't get any argument from me over skill. MLB players are incredibly skilled. Hitting a major league pitch is probably the hardest thing to do in all of sports.

So, we agree that iindividual skill and execution play a role, and we agree that luck plays a role. Where does strategy come into play? Or teamwork? How does an inferior team devise a plan to win? Here's how: they go through the motions and hope the ball bounces their way. And a good portion of the time it works.

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Posted by tduecen

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Posted on 12/22/13 at 5:42 pm to Korkstand

Strategy matters to a degree, a shift is strategy (or a gamble as you see it) designing your line up is strategy, the way you handle your bullpen, etc. A lot of film has been watched to devise these @strategies" but I does depend on luck. If a pix her walks/strikes out a hitter the shift is pointless, if a pitcher has allowed hitters to hit .189 against him and then gives up a home run it was pointless.

As far as an inferior team, they watch enough tape and devise a way to stop a "better" team. However, I think once you get into the MLB the talent level is fairly equal once you look at all 26 players involved.

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