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re: Ray Allen, Heat have mutual interest in deal

Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:29 am to
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:29 am to
Pretty shitty of Allen to have been thinking about going to the heat even while the season was going on. Jmo though
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 8:32 am to
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Pretty shitty of Allen to have been thinking about going to the heat even while the season was going on. Jmo though

1. I haven't read this entire thread, but where does it say that?

2. That's pretty normal behavior, to think ahead of what you are going to do with your life.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:28 am to
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Bosh is not a banger so IMO he is better at the 4. Lebron is a huge 3 and is just as much of a mismatch there, if not more, then he is at the 4 right now. That will change as he gets older, but right now he still has that athleticism.


Problem is that their production doesn't show what you're saying. LeBron's production at the 4 over the 3 is insane. His PER at the 4 is 37, while at the 3 it's 29, and those were in the regular season. I'd venture to say it was even better in the post-season. (Last year's numbers the same. PER of 37 vs 27. He shoots more efficiently. He rebounds better. Shoots more FTs.)

Bosh's production is nearly identical when he plays the 4 or the 5, but he shoots more efficiently at the 5.


In the playoffs, the mismatches LeBron creates while playing at the 4 far outweight any advantages of playing Bosh at the 4 with a traditional Center at the 5. If they could get a very good Center, then yes, but that's very unlikely to happen. It would take something like a Top 5-10 Center in the league to offset the advantages of LeBron at the 4.
This post was edited on 6/26/12 at 9:29 am
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 9:47 am to
Stephen A said he'd likely end up in Miami because of mutual interest during round 1 of the playoffs
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:07 am to
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Stephen A said he'd likely end up in Miami because of mutual interest during round 1 of the playoffs



I don't remember this. So I can't comment towards that. But I think Ray Allen's been counting the days till he could leave since his blow up with Rondo.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:08 am to
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Stephen A said he'd likely end up in Miami because of mutual interest during round 1 of the playoffs

I'm not putting much stock into what Stephen A says.

But, even if true, that's normal human behavior, to plan ahead for the future in terms of your career.


He can be interested in going to Miami and it have zero impact on how he prepared or performed for the Celtics.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 10:21 am to
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But, even if true, that's normal human behavior, to plan ahead for the future in terms of your career.



Plus, it's not like the Celtics weren't looking to trade him all season long. If I remember correctly, they had a deal in place, and Doc Rivers even told Allen he was traded. Only to call him back the next day and say "never mind." The guys been thinking about his future all season, and not necessarily his FA.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 11:30 am to
You probably said the same when he told people weeks in advance that Lebron was going to Miami
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:04 pm to
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You're not allowed to like a player and thus team he is on, but he sure is allowed to hate a player and thus the team he is on.



well when he says we need, like thats been his team for years
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 12:08 pm to
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You probably said the same when he told people weeks in advance that Lebron was going to Miami
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Yea, and he was also backing up off of that prediction right before LEbron even announced it, kinda proving that he basically "guessed" it and got lucky.

Posted by WITNESS23
Member since Feb 2010
13871 posts
Posted on 6/26/12 at 1:14 pm to
I haven't heard the Jason Terry to the heat talks until the MSB

Can anyone give me more info? or is this just speculation/ what people think would be a good thing for the heat?
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