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re: Rate these sports professions based on athleticism; your opinion.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:01 pm to Jack Daniel
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:01 pm to Jack Daniel
Yeah can we do this by position?
Most athletic: NBA wing
Least athletic: MLB lefty specialist
Most athletic: NBA wing
Least athletic: MLB lefty specialist
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:01 pm to kilo
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Just watch someone ice skate for the first time to find your answer. Everyone of these sports is predicated on the individuals base ability to walk/run except for hockey.
So based on that, why not just find someone to watch walk and run for the first time?
What about the first time shooting a basketball?
Swinging a baseball bat?
Hitting a golf ball?
Returning a serve in tennis?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
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NASCAR only requires endurance
But golf and baseball don't even require that.
Very skill oriented games with minimal raw athleticism necessary.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:06 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So based on that, why not just find someone to watch walk and run for the first time?
What about the first time shooting a basketball?
Swinging a baseball bat?
Hitting a golf ball?
Returning a serve in tennis?
Everyone learns to walk and run unless there are medical conditions that prevent it from happening.
I suspect you have never tried to skate let alone play hockey otherwise you would understand. Learning to skate to then learn to play and refine your sport isnt the same as:
What about the first time shooting a basketball?
Swinging a baseball bat?
Hitting a golf ball?
Returning a serve in tennis?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:09 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:pitching definitely does, but standing on 1st sure as hell doesn't
But golf and baseball don't even require that.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:17 pm to kilo
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Everyone learns to walk and run unless there are medical conditions that prevent it from happening.
And everyone that plays hockey learns how to skate.
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I suspect you have never tried to skate let alone play hockey otherwise you would understand.
Hockey no, but I have skated a few times. It is very difficult at first, but becomes pretty routine after a while. Not on the level of a hockey player obviously, but enough to where I can glide around without having to concentrate on not falling. If a significant portion of my job required me to skate everyday at an elite level, I imagine it would just become routine after a while, just like skateboarding, bike riding, sprinting, etc does first for those athletes.
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Learning to skate to then learn to play and refine your sport isnt the same as:
I believe the amount of practice and refinement that goes into the skills I listed is greater than the skills that go into playing hockey, even after learning to skate. But there's plenty of other things we can add to the above list in terms of things that aren't natural acts that needs to be learned before further refining the skills required to be elite: swimming, water polo, gymnastics, pole vaulting, triple jumping, etc.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:22 pm to Open Your Eyes
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And everyone that plays hockey learns how to skate.
Jesus man. You're brilliant.
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Hockey no, but I have skated a few times. It is very difficult at first, but becomes pretty routine after a while. Not on the level of a hockey player obviously, but enough to where I can glide around without having to concentrate on not falling. If a significant portion of my job required me to skate everyday at an elite level, I imagine it would just become routine after a while, just like skateboarding, bike riding, sprinting, etc does first for those athletes.
You dont have a clue. You really have no idea of the speed and physicality that hockey is played.
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I believe the amount of practice and refinement that goes into the skills I listed is greater than the skills that go into playing hockey, even after learning to skate. But there's plenty of other things we can add to the above list in terms of things that aren't natural acts that needs to be learned before further refining the skills required to be elite: swimming, water polo, gymnastics, pole vaulting, triple jumping, etc.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:30 pm to CocoLoco
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Why are so many putting baseball as first?
Because that's what they played growing up and they want to believe. It's obviously last of all of the actual team sports. It takes incredible skill, marginal athleticism.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:31 pm to kilo
Let's put it another way. Your entire argument is predicated on the difficulty of ice skating at that required level to play hockey.
I'd bet there are more people in the world that can ice skate at that level than there are people that can twist and contort their bodies at the level required to be a gymnast. Or can swim at the level required to play water polo. Or can propel themselves in the air on a fiberglass pole to pole vault 17 feet.
I'd bet there are more people in the world that can ice skate at that level than there are people that can twist and contort their bodies at the level required to be a gymnast. Or can swim at the level required to play water polo. Or can propel themselves in the air on a fiberglass pole to pole vault 17 feet.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:33 pm to kilo
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You dont have a clue. You really have no idea of the speed and physicality that hockey is played.
Also, what idea do you have about the level of speed/skill/physicality in skateboarding, bmx, water polo, gymnastics, or pole vault?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:35 pm to Open Your Eyes
He's just trolling you man.
Nobody actually believes it requires great athleticism to play hockey.
Nobody actually believes it requires great athleticism to play hockey.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:35 pm to Plankton
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Basketball
Football
Soccer
Hockey
Baseball
Golf
Nascar
I wouldn't argue that order, though I rate football lower because of the endurance factor. Football players just aren't conditioned to exert themselves for more than a few seconds at a time unlike other team sports (except baseball).
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:40 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Let's put it another way. Your entire argument is predicated on the difficulty of ice skating at that required level to play hockey.
No, my entire argument isnt just skating. Its just the most glaring and obvious one.
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I'd bet there are more people in the world that can ice skate at that level than there are people that can twist and contort their bodies at the level required to be a gymnast. Or can swim at the level required to play water polo. Or can propel themselves in the air on a fiberglass pole to pole vault 17 feet.
Maybe, maybe not. You are still missing the point though.
Its not surprising that many people, especially southerners haven't the faintest clue. I played baseball, football, hockey and soccer growing up through HS and a little lacrosse. Played at a very high level in hockey.
There is no question that it takes much more athleticism to play hockey than it does to play the other three sports I played. It wasnt even close. i admit that I dont know what basketball would have been like comparatively.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:42 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Football players just aren't conditioned to exert themselves for more than a few seconds at a time
Oh no doubt. I think their overall levels in strength, speed, agility, acceleration, explosiveness, and coordination more than make up for their lack of endurance.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:42 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Also, what idea do you have about the level of speed/skill/physicality in skateboarding, bmx, water polo, gymnastics, or pole vault?
Nope, I sure dont. So how can everyone putting basketball number one be right then? Why are you not arguing with them as well?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:42 pm to Plankton
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Nobody actually believes it requires great athleticism to play hockey
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:48 pm to pvilleguru
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pvilleguru
I think its kind of telling that Hockey is getting such push back from some. Southerners dont like that yankee hockey.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:52 pm to Jack Daniel
Has anyone defined what means athleticism?
Usually it involves:
Speed, strength, power, endurance, agility, hand/eye coordination, quickness, balance, and what else am I missing?
Without scoring all of those on a scale, then you can't make a determination.
What many people here will miss are pole vaulters and decathletes.
Way back in the day ABC once had a "best athlete" show, I forget the name now, and there was a pole vaulter who couldn't be beat in the competition.
So all you who claim any of the big 3 sports first would be wrong.
Edit: Hockey players under rated as well. Definitely ahead of the big 3 sports.
Usually it involves:
Speed, strength, power, endurance, agility, hand/eye coordination, quickness, balance, and what else am I missing?
Without scoring all of those on a scale, then you can't make a determination.
What many people here will miss are pole vaulters and decathletes.
Way back in the day ABC once had a "best athlete" show, I forget the name now, and there was a pole vaulter who couldn't be beat in the competition.
So all you who claim any of the big 3 sports first would be wrong.
Edit: Hockey players under rated as well. Definitely ahead of the big 3 sports.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:52 pm to kilo
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No, my entire argument isnt just skating. Its just the most glaring and obvious one.
This post proves otherwise:
"Just watch someone ice skate for the first time to find your answer. Everyone of these sports is predicated on the individuals base ability to walk/run except for hockey. "
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Maybe, maybe not. You are still missing the point though.
Actually you're missing the point. Your entire argument for hockey requiring the most athleticism is because ice skating is hard and not something that everyone learns naturally.
All of those things you quoted require learning a certain physical motor skill that isn't naturally acquired before learning the actual skills of the sport, just like hockey.
Your pointless diatribe about southerners not knowing hockey further proves you're missing the point.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:56 pm to kilo
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Nope, I sure dont. So how can everyone putting basketball number one be right then? Why are you not arguing with them as well?
Because to myself and everyone else except you, the sport requiring the most athleticism goes beyond one that requires making an unnatural skill become routine enough to where you are able to perform at the required level in that sport.
I'm not sure what sport as a whole requires the. Out athleticism. I do believe the most athletic people in the categories mentioned are nba wings and NFL DBs, and there's a pretty big gap after them.
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