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re: Rate these sports professions based on athleticism; your opinion.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:51 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:51 pm to lsupride87
For example in baseball:
Im playing shortsop. My variables are the ball will be hit either hard or soft to my right or left and I will need to react and then throw the ball to first. Or, the ball isnt even hit to you
In tennis, the ball will either be hit to my forehand or backhand, either short, deep, with topspin, or a slice. Once I get to the ball I will then decide to hit topspin deep to his forehand corner, topspin to his backhand, slice to his forehand, slice to his backhand, should i it a short angle instead? Should I come into the net?
I just dont think the variables even compare. Before the ball is put in play in baseball the fielder should know exactly what he should do. As a tennis player, you have 10 options on every shot
Im playing shortsop. My variables are the ball will be hit either hard or soft to my right or left and I will need to react and then throw the ball to first. Or, the ball isnt even hit to you
In tennis, the ball will either be hit to my forehand or backhand, either short, deep, with topspin, or a slice. Once I get to the ball I will then decide to hit topspin deep to his forehand corner, topspin to his backhand, slice to his forehand, slice to his backhand, should i it a short angle instead? Should I come into the net?
I just dont think the variables even compare. Before the ball is put in play in baseball the fielder should know exactly what he should do. As a tennis player, you have 10 options on every shot
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Posted on 6/22/15 at 3:59 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Im playing shortsop. My variables are the ball will be hit either hard or soft to my right or left and I will need to react and then throw the ball to first. Or, the ball isnt even hit to you
or you have to make it to 2nd base to cover a stolen base, where the catcher throws a seed that is 5 feet off the ground, and you have to pick a short hop?
or you have to run down a foul ball over your shoulder in foul territory in short left field?
or there is a slow chopper right past the pitcher, you must barehand and throw off of 1 foot in order to throw out a fast runner?
or you chase a ball in the hole between SS and 3rd, you have to stop your momentum, plant your foot on the OF grass, and fire a strike to 1st base?
or you have to chase a chopper up the middle, field the ball in short CF, spin and throw a strike all in 1 like Alex Bregman did recently.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:01 pm to Lester Earl
quote:We will just have to agree to disagree. I played both baseball and tennis. I felt like I thought 1000x as much while playing tennis. I felt baseball was way more reactionary in nature
or you have to make it to 2nd base to cover a stolen base, where the catcher throws a seed that is 5 feet off the ground, and you have to pick a short hop?
or you have to run down a foul ball over your shoulder in foul territory in short left field?
or there is a slow chopper right past the pitcher, you must barehand and throw off of 1 foot in order to throw out a fast runner?
or you chase a ball in the hole between SS and 3rd, you have to stop your momentum, plant your foot on the OF grass, and fire a strike to 1st base?
or you have to chase a chopper up the middle, field the ball in short CF, spin and throw a strike all in 1 like Alex Bregman did recently.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:03 pm to Lester Earl
All of that could be summed up as a hard or soft hit to your left or right.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 4:05 pm to lsupride87
Once the ball is hit in baseball, there's not much thinking. Just look at where the runners are and you know where you need to go with it.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:51 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
well yea, they can prob hit in a batting cage. But off real life pitching? no way.
It's just hand-eye. See thing, hit thing.
And a fly ball? ayfkm? What do you do when catching a fly ball that you don't do when hitting an overhead?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:52 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
or you have to make it to 2nd base to cover a stolen base, where the catcher throws a seed that is 5 feet off the ground, and you have to pick a short hop?
or you have to run down a foul ball over your shoulder in foul territory in short left field?
or there is a slow chopper right past the pitcher, you must barehand and throw off of 1 foot in order to throw out a fast runner?
or you chase a ball in the hole between SS and 3rd, you have to stop your momentum, plant your foot on the OF grass, and fire a strike to 1st base?
or you have to chase a chopper up the middle, field the ball in short CF, spin and throw a strike all in 1 like Alex Bregman did recently.
What was your argument again? Because it sounds really terrible.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:53 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I just dont think the variables even compare.
Not even a little. It's inarguable.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 7:56 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
All of that could be summed up as a hard or soft hit to your left or right.
have you ever thrown a baseball on one leg, on the run, with force, across a diamond?
just saying. that's prob more athletic than anything done on a tennis court.
just saying "a soft or hard ball hit to your left" does it no justice.
as for the guy comparing catching a MLB flyball to hitting an overhead. Huh? Funniest thing ive read all day. I dont know what you are trying to say, actually.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
have you ever thrown a baseball on one leg, on the run, with force, across a diamond?
Oh, so it's more athletic than hitting a moving ball on the run, sliding on one leg, with force, and placement, and touch, across a net....and then doing it over and over again?
Your arguments are goddamn terrible.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:02 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
as for the guy comparing catching a MLB flyball to hitting an overhead. Huh? Funniest thing ive read all day. I dont know what you are trying to say, actually.
Well then you're retarded.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:15 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I was usually on first base because I'm left handed, but I quit at an early age.
have you ever thrown a baseball on one leg, on the run, with force, across a diamond?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:17 pm to Jack Daniel
Athleticism?
1: Soccer
2: Football
3: Tennis
4: Basketball
5: Baseball
6: Golf
Edit: I put football above tennis solely on the level of beating football players take on Sunday. Tennis is a brutal stamina driven game, so that's not to discount the athleticism of the players.
Golfers are better athletes than they are given credit for.
1: Soccer
2: Football
3: Tennis
4: Basketball
5: Baseball
6: Golf
Edit: I put football above tennis solely on the level of beating football players take on Sunday. Tennis is a brutal stamina driven game, so that's not to discount the athleticism of the players.
Golfers are better athletes than they are given credit for.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:19 pm to SystemsGo
quote:
Oh, so it's more athletic than hitting a moving ball on the run, sliding on one leg, with force, and placement, and touch, across a net....and then doing it over and over again?
yes. the tennis act you describe is routine. The baseball play is not. You're far off here.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:23 pm to pvilleguru
quote:
I was usually on first base because I'm left handed, but I quit at an early age.
did you quit to concentrate on tennis, baw?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
yes. the tennis act you describe is routine. The baseball play is not. You're far off here.
Speak English?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:25 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Nope. Quit to concentrate on basketball and soccer.
did you quit to concentrate on tennis, baw?
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:26 pm to Lester Earl
It's only routine for world class tennis players, who are world class athletes.
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:26 pm to lsupride87
I had a Kinesiology class and we discussed this very subject about 20 years ago.
We came up with criteria for athleticism first, which were: speed, power, strength, agility, quickness, balance, hand/eye coordination, endurance, and I think one or two others, I think one may have been explosiveness, but I considered that power, but I believe it was added in.
Then we scored each criteria for each sport. For baseball, we looked at shortstop. For football, we used runningback (for that time), and track we used both pole vaulter and decathlete.
I think the top-3 were decathlete/pole vaulter, gymnast, water polo then basketball in that order.
All sports were looked at and scored including Rugby, hockey, golf, tennis, swimming and water polo.
That was a fun two class sessions.
We came up with criteria for athleticism first, which were: speed, power, strength, agility, quickness, balance, hand/eye coordination, endurance, and I think one or two others, I think one may have been explosiveness, but I considered that power, but I believe it was added in.
Then we scored each criteria for each sport. For baseball, we looked at shortstop. For football, we used runningback (for that time), and track we used both pole vaulter and decathlete.
I think the top-3 were decathlete/pole vaulter, gymnast, water polo then basketball in that order.
All sports were looked at and scored including Rugby, hockey, golf, tennis, swimming and water polo.
That was a fun two class sessions.
This post was edited on 6/22/15 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 6/22/15 at 8:27 pm to Lester Earl
quote:So you do equally difficult acts in one sport many times, yet rarely in another sport?
yes. the tennis act you describe is routine. The baseball play is not. You're far off here.
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