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re: Rank these NFL Head Coaches

Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:22 pm to
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So by your logic, if Norwood hits that kick, Levy suddenly morphs into a better coach and instead of a choker becomes clutch?


This is about rating these 4 coaches. and YES Levy Didn't get the job done when it mattered most. BUT I have him behind billick and gruden and ahead of Switzer.
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:22 pm to
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Levy Didn't get the job done


So Marv Levy = Scott Norwood now?
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:24 pm to
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and YES Levy Didn't get the job done when it mattered most.
So answer this question directly in a "Yes" or "No" fashion: If Norwood hits that kick in the Super Bowl, does Levy suddenly become a better coach who "got the job done?"
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:25 pm to
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I use the winning big games as a tie breaker,


that's how it should be used.
Completely agree. It's a small factor to be weighed among a bunch of other factors. Lazy people like to simply count rings to determine who great QBs or coaches are and it's just stupid and annoying.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:26 pm to
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So Marv Levy = Scott Norwood now?


Never said that either. The Bills dominated taht game so I don't blame Norwood so much. BUT now that you mentioned it. The Bills failed worse and worse as the next three SB'S went on.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:30 pm to
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It's a small factor to be weighed among a bunch of other factors. Lazy people like to simply count rings to determine who great QBs or coaches are and it's just stupid and annoying.


YES! You hit the nail on the head.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:32 pm to
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It's a small factor to be weighed among a bunch of other factors. Lazy people like to simply count rings to determine who great QBs or coaches are and it's just stupid and annoying.




bullshite!!! Its all about winning it all. YOU and dumbass soph just can't see that. And ADAM STFU.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:33 pm to
I'm still waiting for you to directly answer my "dumbass" question from above...
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:35 pm to
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So answer this question directly in a "Yes" or "No" fashion: If Norwood hits that kick in the Super Bowl, does Levy suddenly become a better coach who "got the job done?"


It changes alot of things!!! YES!!!
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:37 pm to
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It changes alot of things!!! YES!!!
THAT is VERY interesting!!!! I now UNDERSTAND that I should not BOTHER trying to REASON with YOU on THIS ISSUE!!!!!!
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:39 pm to
It's simple. Levy = Norwood.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:40 pm to
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Its all about winning it all.


as a player yes. However, it has nothing to do with determining who was a "great" player when it's all over although it does help.
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ADAM STFU.

or what?
Posted by Sophandros
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:44 pm to
Get off his lawn.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 4/27/10 at 4:46 pm to
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Sure, but it's pretty bloody obvious, given the ENTIRE body of work, that Levy is a better coach than Gruden, Billick, and Switzer. Thus, they are not tied, and thus the "rings" argument is invalid


Chucky had the Raiders playing consistantly well and then went to the Bucs where in his first season he took the same team Dungy had not been able to do anything meaningful with and win the Super Bowl. I could have coached Dungy's superbowl winning Colts team to a championship. I feel Gruden is a good coach, not as good as Levy, but definitely worth getting mentioned with him. Billick is decent and Switzer shouldn't even be compared. lol
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