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re: QB Arm Strength: How do guys improve it so much in the NFL?
Posted on 8/11/12 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/11/12 at 11:31 am to SlowFlowPro
I think resistance training and work with bands, etc. nowadays.
I know in baseball some teams used to work a young pitcher to death and work his arm off b/c supposedly that's a way to strengthen it. I think that was more old school though. It was in that Feinstein book "living on the black" about Glavine and Mussina - I think the Braves did that to all their young arms (Avery, Glavine, Smoltz, etc) back in the 90's.
I think Glavine's arm was dead after his first couple of seasons finally ended but then he'd show up in April after a few months off and it was stronger/livelier than ever.
I know in baseball some teams used to work a young pitcher to death and work his arm off b/c supposedly that's a way to strengthen it. I think that was more old school though. It was in that Feinstein book "living on the black" about Glavine and Mussina - I think the Braves did that to all their young arms (Avery, Glavine, Smoltz, etc) back in the 90's.
I think Glavine's arm was dead after his first couple of seasons finally ended but then he'd show up in April after a few months off and it was stronger/livelier than ever.
This post was edited on 8/11/12 at 11:34 am
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Posted on 8/11/12 at 11:50 am to Lester Earl
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both have always had above average arm strength coming out. Im not sure what people were watching
agreed, lol at people thinking you can actually make a drastic change in arm strength through resistance and weight training.
arm strength is either something you have or you dont have; similar to speed and quickness.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Mechanics.
Hell, Brady used to have a coach thats only job was to improve his mechanics.
Hell, Brady used to have a coach thats only job was to improve his mechanics.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 1:21 pm to SteveLSU35
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Some guys like Farve and Jamarcus are born with it...no need for good mechanics. Others like Pennington and Lienart will never have it.
Pennington wasn't always a noodlearm.
He just had a billion surgeries on that shoulder.
Posted on 8/11/12 at 2:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
Its the velocity that QBs must throw the ball compared to the college level. The speed of the receivers makes the QBs have to adjust to harder throws. Of course, timing and accuracy can help overcome weaker arms but some QBs have not reached their peak in arm strength.
Good topic!
Good topic!
Posted on 8/11/12 at 4:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
For question b, I also think it has a lot to do with upside.
Scouts fall in love with the QB that has a cannon. The line of thinking being that once the other nuances of the game are mastered, you have the complete package at QB.
Kinda like the tall fast receivers. Maybe they are not technically sound with their route running and catching, but scouts fall in love with their high ceiling, figuring that the finer points of playing receiver can be taught.
And from a scouting perspective, the QB that already possesses a strong arm can focus solely on mastering the playbook & the other aspects of the game.
If you're bringing in a QB with a subpar arm hoping to improve it. First off, you can't be certain impovement takes place, and even if it does to what extent. Secondly, that's more time focusing on improving arm strength, less time learning the playbook. Less of a problem if you can give your new QB a 3 year apprenticeship, but a lot of these teams are drafting QBs to come in and play right away.
Scouts fall in love with the QB that has a cannon. The line of thinking being that once the other nuances of the game are mastered, you have the complete package at QB.
Kinda like the tall fast receivers. Maybe they are not technically sound with their route running and catching, but scouts fall in love with their high ceiling, figuring that the finer points of playing receiver can be taught.
And from a scouting perspective, the QB that already possesses a strong arm can focus solely on mastering the playbook & the other aspects of the game.
If you're bringing in a QB with a subpar arm hoping to improve it. First off, you can't be certain impovement takes place, and even if it does to what extent. Secondly, that's more time focusing on improving arm strength, less time learning the playbook. Less of a problem if you can give your new QB a 3 year apprenticeship, but a lot of these teams are drafting QBs to come in and play right away.
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