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re: PGA Tour to merge with LIV Golf
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:10 pm to Basura Blanco
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:10 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:Or would it be more like Roger goodwill making more than individual players?
This would be the equivalent of Roger Godell making more money than all but one NFL TEAM in a given season.
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Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:11 pm to bamameister
quote:Where did he ever do this. I just provided direct quotes from over a year ago where he was fine with Saudi money.
Makes a guy wonder what Rory still feels about "blood money" and that "9-11" moral high ground that he was dying on.
Even when directly asked about 9/11, Rory dodged the question as said dirty money is impossible to separate from clean money. Rory was never on the blood money train. You can stop trying to make that a thing, it’s simply a lie
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:12 pm to bamameister
quote:
Makes a guy wonder what Rory still feels about "blood money" and that "9-11" moral high ground that he was dying on.
I’m not a Rory fan, but I don’t think he said this. He actually said he couldn’t blame people for taking life changing amounts of money.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:15 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Or would it be more like Roger goodwill making more than individual players?
Not really. Its a different business model obviously, but on the Tour, the players are the "teams". Godell answers to and is employed at the whim of the 32 owners. Monahan answers to and is employed at the whim of (few hundred?) players.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:22 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
Not really. Its a different business model obviously, but on the Tour, the players are the "teams". Godell answers to and is employed at the whim of the 32 owners. Monahan answers to and is employed at the whim of (few hundred?) players.
Seems like a very complicated apples to oranges way of trying to make a point.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:23 pm to RedHawk
Another interesting look back quote
From Tiger in December
“The lawsuits have to go and Greg has to go. Then we can talk (with PIF)”
Hmmm.
From Tiger in December
“The lawsuits have to go and Greg has to go. Then we can talk (with PIF)”
Hmmm.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:30 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Greg has to go.
Yep, I'm guessing that was one of the negotiation angles that Monahan took with PIF, but then again I'm probably giving him too much credit.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:34 pm to RedHawk
quote:
Seems like a very complicated apples to oranges way of trying to make a point.
Jesus, you are beating. How in the hell can you compare an NFL player to a PGA player in regards to the commissioner? How is this for simple.
The NFL player is an employee. The PGA player is not.
The PGA Commissioner was elected by the players. The NFL commissioner was elected by the owners not the players and the players had absolutely no say so in that election.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:34 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
I’m not a Rory fan, but I don’t think he said this. He actually said he couldn’t blame people for taking life changing amounts of money.
Why do you think 90% of the PGA golfers in that meeting were calling Monahan a hypocrite? Monahan sold them all on not ever having to apologize for being a PGA player. His moral ground was everyone's, including Monahan's mouthpiece through all this.
Rory today in his presser:
"McIlroy even acknowledged the fraudulent nature of PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan’s efforts to demonize LIV defectors for taking money from the murderous kingdom that also bankrolled the 9/11 attacks only to announce Tuesday the PGA Tour was taking presumably even more money from that same murderous kingdom."
“Of course, I understand that it is hypocritical,” McIlroy said. “It sounds hypocritical.”
So much that comes from Rory's mouth is just 2-faced. He's really been over his head and pay grade for most of this. He has emotionally flipped more times that an Olympic gymnast. If you are going to rely on semantics, you better be a savant with it. Instead, he continues to keep himself on the Jay Monahan hypocritical train ride. As Rory said, it sounds hypocritical. Looks that way too.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:36 pm to bamameister
Monahan was extremely hypocritical with the 9/11 angle. Who is arguing that?
Please show us when Rory was like you claimed? Because I can produce quotes from over a year ago where Rory was fine with taking Saudi money
Just admit you were wrong and pulled it out of your arse. No big deal
Please show us when Rory was like you claimed? Because I can produce quotes from over a year ago where Rory was fine with taking Saudi money
Just admit you were wrong and pulled it out of your arse. No big deal
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:37 pm to bamameister
quote:
He brought brand names to LIV. He created pressure on the PGA to immediately increase the purses before everyone on the PGA took off for the promised land.
LIV's money that the PGA Tour could never compete with was the leverage. Period. As a normal business model, that leverage could not and would not have existed otherwise. It's really easy to put pressure on an entity when you have infinite funds behind you. The PGA had to borrow against future TV earnings just to put up the money for these elevated purses. Phil's whole argument was they had the money and just weren't paying it out to the players. In reality, the Tour had to take out massive loans to create money they didn't have to compete with an entity (PIF) that had the money even though their business (LIV) wasn't producing any.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:38 pm to lsufball19
One thing this ordeal proves was everyone on Phil’s side and the LIv side was full of shite about the tour sitting on all this infinite cash. Clearly it wasn’t the case
Now of course those people will pretend like they never said that (bonds, ell, etc)
Now of course those people will pretend like they never said that (bonds, ell, etc)
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:39 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
Wouldn’t it be amazing if the Saudis named him commish of PGA.
I could be wrong, but my understanding was that the PGA would still have majority control of the board in this new merger
quote:
Under the terms of the agreement, the Board of Directors of the new entity will oversee and direct all the new entity’s golf-related commercial operations, businesses and investments. The new entity will work to ensure a cohesive schedule of events that will be exciting for fans, sponsors and all stakeholders. PIF will initially be the exclusive investor in the new entity, alongside the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and the DP World Tour. Going forward, PIF will have the exclusive right to further invest in the new entity, including a right of first refusal on any capital that may be invested in the new entity, including into the PGA TOUR, LIV Golf and DP World Tour. The PGA TOUR will appoint a majority of the Board and hold a majority voting interest in the combined entity.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:40 pm to lsufball19
quote:You aren’t wrong. Some people are just in denial and are saying “having majority control isn’t a big deal”
I could be wrong, but my understanding was that the PGA would still have majority control of the board in this new merger
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:40 pm to lsufball19
quote:
LIV's money that the PGA Tour could never compete with was the leverage. Period. As a normal business model, that leverage could not and would not have existed otherwise. It's really easy to put pressure on an entity when you have infinite funds behind you. The PGA had to borrow against future TV earnings just to put up the money for these elevated purses. Phil's whole argument was they had the money and just weren't paying it out to the players. In reality, the Tour had to take out massive loans to create money they didn't have to compete with an entity (PIF) that had the money even though their business (LIV) wasn't producing any.
Jay Monahan has categorically denied, as early as this morning on the golf channel, that the PGA was running out of money, and this was the driving force behind the merger.
If you can prove that theory, I'm listening.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:40 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
This would be the equivalent of Roger Godell making more money than all but one NFL TEAM in a given season.
Roger Goodell does, however, make more money per year than any player in the NFL. Monahan makes pennies in comparison. You can't just compare individual Tour players to entire NFL franchises and act like it's apples to apples.
Also what year is that from?
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:42 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
Jesus, you are beating. How in the hell can you compare an NFL player to a PGA player in regards to the commissioner? How is this for simple.
The NFL player is an employee. The PGA player is not.
The PGA Commissioner was elected by the players. The NFL commissioner was elected by the owners not the players and the players had absolutely no say so in that election.
I'm saying why even compare the NFL to the PGA in the first place. It is a dumb comparison and you just proved it. They are apples to oranges.
This post was edited on 6/7/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:44 pm to lsupride87
quote:
The lawsuits have to go and Greg has to go. Then we can talk (with PIF)”
Super petty.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:45 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Agreee, Greg is petty as hell and needed to go for this to happen. We finally agree
Super petty.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You aren’t wrong. Some people are just in denial and are saying “having majority control isn’t a big deal”
quote:
You aren’t wrong. Some people are just in denial and are saying “having majority control isn’t a big deal”
That's Rory's argument. And then he adds, I don't expect LIV to be around. That will teach LIV. Didn't take Rory long to use his Jay Monahan stick to make his PGA world just right. What a paid puss.
Reality: Saudis own all the seed money going forward. Money talks for a reason.
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