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re: PGA Tour disciplines golfers 'who have decided to turn their backs' on PGA for LIV
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:02 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:02 pm to lsupride87
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We know about the Asian tour.
Well obviously you didn't.
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There is very defined ways for developing golfers to make it now. Let’s talk about how theywill actually develop future players for LIV. Truth is they have zero fricking plan right now. It isn’t a concern for them
If this thing works players will go to the Asian tour to try to get to liv. There are automatically qualifiers for Asian Tour players based on order of merit now. How is that any different than what is going on now with KFT? Asian Tour events have better SOF ratings than KFT events already.
I've said it several times, there are several reasons to not like LIV, and liking the Tour is good enough reason. You should say that and stop there because every time you try to make points they either make no sense or are just straight up wrong.
It totally invalidates any opinion you have on the matter.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:05 pm
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
So you think the LIV answer to development being the Asian tour isn’t a detrimental thing to golf?
Cause the only opinion I said was worrying about the future of golf if LIV wins is a legit concern and not sanctimonious.
Where was any goalpost shifted, and where have you even refuted that claim?
Cause the only opinion I said was worrying about the future of golf if LIV wins is a legit concern and not sanctimonious.
Where was any goalpost shifted, and where have you even refuted that claim?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:14 pm to lsupride87
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So you think the LIV answer to development being the Asian tour isn’t a detrimental thing to golf?
For the consumer
Worldwide? I don't really have an opinion either way. Here in America, still not really because you can't watch 90% of the KFT events anyway.
For the player, I think it could be better as the strength of field is higher. I don't see how it's materially worse other than more travel. And don't argue cost because Latino America is the most expensive Tour on the planet and it's one of the only ways to get in the KFT, and Q School is like $5k to enter.
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Where was any goalpost shifted,
You changed from player development to developing the game of golf when you learned the Asian tour is aligned with LIV
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:16 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
No, I still mean player development. I just used interchanging phrases. Player development is fricked if LIV wins. America produces by far the best talent. If your answer for that now is Asia tour, you absolutely have just fricked player development
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:18 pm to lsupride87
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I just used interchanging phrases.
No you didn't, you changed your question because you didn't like you answer.
Hopefully, if you are telling the truth you are an idiot that doesn't know how to use words.
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Player development is fricked if LIV wins.
That's more pure conjecture by you about a topic you know absolutely nothing about.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:21 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:No I didn’t you turd. I mean, and always meant, player development and developing the game are both horsefricked with LIV. That isn’t their goal and they don’t give two fricks about it
No you didn't, you changed your question because you didn't like you answer.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:22 pm to lsupride87
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No I didn’t you turd.
Then you're an idiot.
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. I mean, and always meant, player development and developing the game are both horsefricked with LIV.
Based on what other than it's in Asia? You have no idea what you are talking about. You pulled your opinion out of thin air based on your fundamental dislike for LIV
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:35 pm to lsupride87
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No I didn’t you turd. I mean, and always meant, player development and developing the game are both horsefricked with LIV. That isn’t their goal and they don’t give two fricks about it
What? You realize outside of golf, let's take soccer, there are what probably 100 professional soccer leagues? I don't know 50?
The best players go to the best clubs in the best leagues. Everything is international now.
Furthermore, let's take your point and apply it to the Euro or Asian league. The PGA tour poaches the best players around the world, and so do the majors.
The LIV is currently 48 players. The pga tour has 132 at the RBC. All the LIV would ever be, is an all star league. That doesn't mean the PGA tour can't still be good.
First, chances at this point of the LIV surviving aren't great. But if, if it survives, the PGA tour fricked up by keeping their good ole boy local American club and not trying to expand into what the LIV is trying to do. Its basic capitalism, really.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:39 pm to baldona
quote:and everyone of there stats was developed here under the PGA TOUR, something they are trying to kill…..
The LIV is currently 48 players
quote:[/quote]Right, and almost the heavy majority comes from Europe and South America
quote]What? You realize outside of golf, let's take soccer, there are what probably 100 professional soccer leagues? I don't know 50? The best players go to the best clubs in the best leagues. Everything is international now.
So if we killed the International development, and moved it to America, is that good for youth soccer development?
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:40 pm to lsupride87
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and everyone of there stats was developed here under the PGA TOUR, something they are trying to kill…..
1. Their
2. Totally irrelevant even if it were true.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Oh we are here now
1. Their
quote:Let me help
You pulled your opinion out of thin air based on your fundamental dislike for LIV
You pulled your opinion out of thin air based on your fundamental dislike for LIV.
Don’t forget that period.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:47 pm to lsupride87
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and everyone of there stats was developed here under the PGA TOUR, something they are trying to kill…..
The point flew over your head. So players don't develop in HS, College, and amateur golf? WUT?
There's plenty of places to develop. Again, 99% of golfers would never make the LIV, they could still "develop" in the PGA tour. They are technically playing against themselves anyway, its not like basketball where the competition is not as good.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:49 pm to lsupride87
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Right, and almost the heavy majority comes from Europe and South America
So if we killed the International development, and moved it to America, is that good for youth soccer development?
Soccer is doing just fine, again, you missed the point. Plenty of guys go and play soccer internationally, it doesn't have a big impact on their home countries. Is it preferred they stay home for fans? Absolutely. But in the end its better for the individual player, and that's whats most important.
If that's the hill you are going to die on, 'development', then your point would be that the LIV would be better golf that has better competition and is actually making the best players better....
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:50 pm to baldona
quote:The PGA tour isn’t going to survive essentially becoming a minor league for LIV. That’s a death model. LIV will kill the PGA, and that is effectively killing their entire money pool of players
Again, 99% of golfers would never make the LIV, they could still "develop" in the PGA tour.
So then what? To the Asian tour? That isn’t a valid solution
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:52 pm to lsupride87
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The PGA tour isn’t going to survive essentially becoming a minor league for LIV. That’s a death model. LIV will kill the PGA, and that is effectively killing their entire money pool of players
So then what? To the Asian tour? That isn’t a valid solution
The PGA tour isn't going anywhere. Yes, worst case it wouldn't be as good because another league takes the better players.
Maybe they change their business model and can actually out compete the LIV? If they don't, its their own fault not mine as a fan. Come on
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:05 pm to baldona
Rocket Mortgage just dropped Dechambaw
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:16 pm to PhiTiger1764
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professional golf in general.
How will the LIV ruin professional golf?
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:18 pm to Tyga Woods
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Rocket Mortgage just dropped Dechambaw
The contract must have a number of pga events he has to play in.
Posted on 6/9/22 at 6:31 pm to BBONDS25
Or that he is simply just an active member of the Tour. It’d be real interesting if they tried to finagle some type of morality clause situation
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 6/9/22 at 7:23 pm to boosiebadazz
Well they are going to need tv time to keep their sponsors. That’s what they pay for, advertising. If they aren’t on tv as much, it’s going to cause problem.
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