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re: PGA Tour disciplines golfers 'who have decided to turn their backs' on PGA for LIV

Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:32 pm to
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The president of the USGA said that all those who qualify, still qualify. They weren't changing the rules

for this year's tournament. It's 2 weeks out. It would be very difficult for them to make changes now. They didn't comment on what would happen moving forward.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:33 pm to
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They're going to play majors bc they will receive OWGR pts for playing in LIV events.


Sigh. Follow the discussion. Our discussion is based off the premise LIV has not rankings points and goes to court
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71308 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:34 pm to
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What if all the other leagues open the LIV players except the PGA tour?

Given all the other Tours who make up the OWGR board are partners of the PGA Tour and are also losing players to LIV, I really doubt they don't all fall in line with one another.

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Everyone is assuming everything is relying on the PGA tour,

I don't think anyone is assuming that. I think they are assuming, and rightfully so, it will come down to the OWGR ultimately

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what if LIV is able to force the hand in the majors to allow LIV players in a different door?

No tour, not even the PGA Tour, has any power to force the hands of the majors. The majors are their own thing.
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:36 pm to
Lol! Golf sucks
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:36 pm to
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I don't think those older guys like McDowell, Louis, Westwood, etc. do care a whole lot based on their comments at the press conference. They seemingly are using this tour as a semi-retirement gig so they can make a lot of money and not play much golf. The only players who probably do care are guys like Gooch, Phil, DJ, and Bryson, Phil mainly just on principle and his ego IMO. It was honestly very apparent, too, that all of them have been receiving different legal advice based on how they're all approaching resigning or not resigning their PGA membership.



One thing Greg Norman has made clear from the get-go, it's going to court. The term "free agent" is about to get legally defined for a PGA player.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71308 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:37 pm to
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they will receive OWGR pts for playing in LIV events.

as of now, they don't. They have applied to receive OWGR points. The board who decides this are the same people who don't want LIV to survive.
Posted by MEd LSU
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
Except the PGA tournament
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Right. After this year, when their ranking points run out, then what?




Do you get court TV?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71308 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
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One thing Greg Norman has made clear from the get-go, it's going to court.

Sure, this was never not going to Court. That is probably the only crystal clear thing (I think) everyone can agree on
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71308 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:38 pm to
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Except the PGA tournament

The PGA Championship is run by the PGA of America, which is not the same thing as the PGA Tour.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:43 pm to
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for this year's tournament. It's 2 weeks out. It would be very difficult for them to make changes now. They didn't comment on what would happen moving forward.




If anyone thought that the PGA was not going to conduct itself as the monopoly that they are, they were sadly mistaken. This has been a legal proceeding waiting to happen since its conception.


But first things first, are PGA players, free agents? Can't wait for that answer.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:44 pm to
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The thought of awarding points to a tour in which every player in the field is automatically guaranteed a finish for every tournament is ridiculous.


So the WGC'S and FedEx Cup playoffs outside of the first event shouldn't get points?
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:45 pm to
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PGA TOUR members:

I wish to provide you with an update and share information regarding the current and former PGA TOUR players who are participating in the Saudi Golf League's event in London today.


not sure if this was posted already but this is petty AF that the PGA said this in their memo.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Look, there are fricking horrible golfers in LIV.


John fricking Houston who isn't even competitive on the Champions tour is in the RBC
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:46 pm to
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How is it reaching? The overall field is a joke


The overall field has the same exact strength of field as the RBC
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:46 pm to
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The board who decides this are the same people who don't want LIV to survive.


That's very debatable. The only 1 for sure is the 1 vote from the PGA Tour representative.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37382 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:47 pm to
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Here is a link to an article with the LIV Tour players (even including Bryson) and their current OWGR. I'll let you do the math, but the average is not going to be even remotely close to the field in a PGA Tour event


You're right, the Portland event will have A WAY higher average ranking than many Tour events
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23432 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:49 pm to
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How is it reaching? The overall field is a joke


The overall field has the same exact strength of field as the RBC


Do you have a link to this? Because I wouldn't doubt it.

A lot of people think PGA tour events have the field strength of a major, and they often are not anywhere close. I'd love to see a comparison of the two fields.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:52 pm to
If I’m a great college player coming up I don’t know how I could turn this down if given the invite.

No cut, 4 million individual payout if I win an event, split 3 million on the side if my team hits, as of now can still play the majors, shittttttt
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/9/22 at 12:52 pm to
The biggest worry the PGA has is IF Tiger decides to go…
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