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re: Peyton Manning's Top 5 QB's

Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:09 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:09 am to
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Allen should be above Herbert and Jackson
he didn’t rank them. He made the comment he doesn’t like rankings so the hist said just list his top QBs then
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 8:22 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:10 am to
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Dairy Sanders




Your schtick has already run its course.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:12 am to
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games played” an important stat for a QB to have in a season?


Is playoff record important?

5-2
5-5
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:12 am to
Only a Louisiana messga board would have it as a schtick to have Allen over Burrow

Everywhere else wouldn’t label it close and difference of opinions
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:13 am to
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Is playoff record important?
Sure. Years where you don’t even make the playoffs should count as two lossss though. Re run the numbers for me

Burrow has missed the playoffs entirely 2/4 years

Allen 1/6 years
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:15 am to
I've seen PLENTY of analysts that have Burrow over Allen. You are the one who's not being objective because you can't comprehend the idea someone would take Burrow over Allen
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50359 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:16 am to
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Only a Louisiana messga board would have it as a schtick to have Allen over Burrow

Everywhere else wouldn’t label it close and difference of opinions


Who said anything about Allen or Burrow?

Get Allen’s nutsack out of your mouth for a minute and try to actually follow along.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:17 am to
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seen PLENTY of analysts that have Burrow over Allen. You are the one who's not being objective because you can't comprehend the idea someone would take Burrow over Allen
Did you not read what I wrote? I said it’s extremely close and a difference of opinion. I completely understand how someone would have burrow over Allen
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50359 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:19 am to
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Did you not read what I wrote? I said it’s extremely close and a difference of opinion. I completely understand how someone would have burrow over Allen


So how do you feel about the troll clumping Burrow into the “interchangeable” group of 4-10 QBs.

I guess you feel Allen is also in that interchangeable group?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:21 am to
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So how do you feel about the troll clumping Burrow into the “interchangeable” group of 4-10 QBs. I guess you feel Allen is also in that interchangeable group?
I think it’s dumb

You have Mahomes

Allen/burrow

Then the rest.

But burrow needs to play this season completely injury free without missing multiple games or I would then say it’s fair to bump him down into that tier
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50359 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:22 am to
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I think it’s dumb


Ok then.

So his schtick has run its course. Glad I have lsupride87’s stamp of approval now.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25700 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:23 am to
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Years where you don’t even make the playoffs should count as two lossss though. Re run the numbers for me


Yeah this isn't a totally disingenuous argument.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:23 am to
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Yeah this isn't a totally disingenuous argument.
In your world going 0-1 in the playoffs is worse than missing the playoffs.

How is that not disingenuous?

If Allen didn’t bring the bills to the playoffs his second year his record would be better. That makes sense to you?
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 8:25 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25700 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:31 am to
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your world going 0-1 in the playoffs is worse than missing the playoffs.


In your world a qb getting injured counts as him not being able to make the playoffs. Mental gymnastics on your part
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107923 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:42 am to
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In your world a qb getting injured counts as him not being able to make the playoffs. Mental gymnastics on your part
Availability matters more than any other stat

2/4 years burrow has not been available the end of the season. It sucks but ignoring that is part of rating QBs doesn’t make sense either
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 8:52 am to
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Only if you don’t consider stats, head to head matchups, and playoff success.


Yeah none of these arguments are in Burrow’s favor. Just because y’all are delusional about him doesn’t mean others will be.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:04 am to
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Is playoff record important? 5-2 5-5


Team stat so no not really.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25700 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:05 am to
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2/4 years burrow has not been available the end of the season. It sucks but ignoring that is part of rating QBs doesn’t make sense either


Well let's see, one time he was out was a lost rookie year like Josh Allen's. An linemen got blown up and fell on Joe's knee. The next injury was him hitting his wrist on, you guessed it, another linemen getting blown up.

When Joe has been healthy, he's been in the AFC title game at worst.

50% of his career has ended with him in the AFC title game, at worst.

His trajectory is far better than Allen's at this point, and yes, he also has to finish this season healthy.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40530 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:25 am to
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Sure. Years where you don’t even make the playoffs should count as two lossss though. Re run the numbers for me



What? This makes no sense.

I agree that it is kind of a toss up, fandom makes me take Burrow and that Burrow has done more with less and Allen has done less with more.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 9:27 am to
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His trajectory is far better than Allen's at this point,


Lol
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