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re: Pete Carroll or Harbaugh/Payton?

Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:23 am to
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:23 am to
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3 Straight NFC Title games


With one Super Bowl appearance to show for it ( a loss). Smells like Andy Reid. I'll take Sean Payton over Andy Reid.

quote:

S.F. was a mess.


San Francisco 2010 was a mess...take a look at the 2005 Saints roster. If the 2010 49ers were a mess, the 2005 Saints were a catastrophe.

Immediate results...7 win improvement and an NFCCG appearance his first year. Super Bowl Champion by his 4th year. The best Harbaugh can do now is win it next year and match Payton
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41297 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:28 am to
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Or are you saying because the 49ers have such superior talent and the Saints are holding Payton back?


Yes, without Payton the Saints are a 7&9 team.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 8:41 am
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 8:33 am to
How am I being a hater?



I truly believe Payton is a better coach than Pete.


With Harbaugh it's a lot closer.
Posted by A2
NoVa
Member since Nov 2012
1425 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:14 am to
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How am I being a hater? I truly believe Payton is a better coach than Pete. With Harbaugh it's a lot closer.


Last time I checked Carroll has beaten Payton three times in a row. Once on a MNF beatdown.
Posted by Hoyas
Member since Sep 2013
2478 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:15 am to
All 3 are great coaches

2 offensive minds and 1 defensive

You can't dismiss any of them
Posted by Hoyas
Member since Sep 2013
2478 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:16 am to
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Yes, without Payton the Saints are a 7&9 team.


Agree, but without Brees that record might be worst
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:20 am to
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Last time I checked Carroll has beaten Payton three times in a row. Once on a MNF beatdown.




And where were these games played?


I'll give you a hint, they weren't in New Orleans. Not many teams win @Seattle.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12873 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:26 am to
the main knock id have against payton is that his team is jekyll and hyde.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 10:38 am to
I think they get that image mainly because of this past season.


They were so dominate at home that it made their play on the road look way worse. For whatever reason, there seemed to be a mental block there.


Under Payton they are 40-16 @ home, 33-23 on the road.

That's obviously a great home record, but that overall road record certainly isn't bad either.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12873 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 9:50 am to
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Under Payton they are 40-16 @ home, 33-23 on the road.

That's obviously a great home record, but that overall road record certainly isn't bad either.


agreed, i think the issue is more how different the offense looks on the road as compared to home, not necessary the overall record.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20567 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 3:03 pm to
I'd say Payton. If he would have been allowed to coach in 2012, I think we'd have gone to the Super Bowl sometime in the past two seasons.
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