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re: Pete Carroll crying over the BCS
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:40 pm to H-Town Tiger
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it is settled on the field, every week.
2004 Auburn didn't think so though...?
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Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:46 pm to Nittany Lion
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2004 Auburn didn't think so though...?
they should have thought about scheduling someone other than the Citadel, ULM and La Tech OCC, but that's just once, they have an argument cause they didn't lose, no team with a loss can bitch.
Actually, I would prefer a 4 team playoff to avoid situation like 2004, but the current system >>>> than an 8 team playoff.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
Best system is an 8 team playoff with the 6 aoutomatic qualifiers as champs of the current bcs conferences, and then the next 2 highest rated champions of their respective conferences. If you do not win your conference then do not bitch about not getting into the playoffs.
We could call it the post season conference champion tournament.
We could call it the post season conference champion tournament.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:52 pm to H-Town Tiger
H you know I agree to disagree on that one. I still prefer the 8...but I'll take a 4 if we can get it. 
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:00 pm to Nittany Lion
That's cool, I just wish you could learn to appreciate regular season games, cause with an 8 team playoff, those games have little or no meaning.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:01 pm to MJRuffalo
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Best system is an 8 team playoff with the 6 aoutomatic qualifiers as champs of the current bcs conferences, and then the next 2 highest rated champions of their respective conferences
Oh, yeah that would be awesome, especially if Oregon State ran the table. Then we could have them plus crap teams from the ACC and Big East all with a shot at a championship, but not USC and only 1 out of the Big 12.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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I just wish you could learn to appreciate regular season games
I do:
Ole Miss 31 Florida 30
Oregon State 27 USC 21
Penn State 45 Oregon State 14
All regular season games...only one of those teams above is unbeaten. They should definately play for a national championship if they end the season that way per the current formula. Right?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:12 pm to Nittany Lion
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only one of those teams above is unbeaten. They should definately play for a national championship if they end the season that way per the current formula. Right
if TT and Alabama run the table, I think those 2 should play based on tougher schedules. For the record I think both will lose and PSU will not, so PSU plays Florida/Texas/OU or maybe USC in the BCS CG.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:15 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The way this season is going absolutely, however, if TT and Alabama run the table, I think those 2 should played based on tougher schedules.
If for some insane reason the Big 10 runs the table in the bowl season (every Big 10 team wins beating SEC and Big 12 teams along the way) and Bama, TT and PSU go unbeaten would you still say Bama and TT deserve it while PSU doesn't?
The odds of that are long I realize...but if the Big 10 shows up in bowls would you say PSU should be in there?
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:22 pm to Nittany Lion
No because you are talking 20/20 hindsight and I'm not trying to down your team cause I think they are legit, but if TT and Bama win out I think they have better resumes, however, I don't think either, let alone both will win out, so you should be in provided you don't stub your toe at Iowa or vs MSU.
I know the Big10/11 has doen well in the bowls against the SEC lately and historically, I point that out to rantards all the time
I know the Big10/11 has doen well in the bowls against the SEC lately and historically, I point that out to rantards all the time
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:23 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm not discounting either one of those two teams either btw. I just wish we could all play...I think we've been burned too many times with unbeaten teams not getting a shot to not be crazy for a playoff.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:44 pm to Nittany Lion
Well, the times you where burned were all pre BCS. The old MNC system was crap. I was a playoff advocate for a long time. The last 2 years have changed my mind and I realized wanting a po in CFB was inconsistent with my other views. I've always like regular season's being more important. I always hated conference tourney's in BB and even CCG in Football and the wild card in baseball.
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:45 pm to MJRuffalo
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Best system is an 8 team playoff with the 6 aoutomatic qualifiers as champs of the current bcs conferences, and then the next 2 highest rated champions of their respective conferences. If you do not win your conference then do not bitch about not getting into the playoffs.
We could call it the post season conference champion tournament.
Ruffalo, you and I don't see eye to eye very often, but I agree with you 100% on this one.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:56 pm to H-Town Tiger
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That's cool, I just wish you could learn to appreciate regular season games, cause with an 8 team playoff, those games have little or no meaning.
Just like in high school football huh? Does their regular season mean nothing? Some teams make the playoffs and some don't. I'd say that would have a little meaning. There would be a lot of meaning trying to be one of the top 8 teams.
Posted on 11/5/08 at 12:29 am to Cornholio
this year will be our 3rd reminder in a row as to why the Big10 shouldn't be allowed in the BCSCG....penn st will be undefeated and get skull fricked by florida or alabama
Posted on 11/5/08 at 12:31 am to Cornholio
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Just like in high school football huh? Does their regular season mean nothing?
not that much, especially non district games, at least here in Texas, I don't really follow LaHS anymore.
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There would be a lot of meaning trying to be one of the top 8 teams.
The LSU loss to Arkansas last year would have meant what, LSU loses a few seeding spots? Big whoop. That loss was devastating if not for Mizzo and WVU losing the last week. If there was a PO, LSU and WVU make it for sure.
Take a look at the NFL in 2007, what did the 2 regular season NYG v Dallas games mean? Nada. Now most people will say the Cowgirls should have stepped up and won when it counted etc, but my point is why should the NYG get another shot? If you had any doubt after 16 games which team was better you really weren't paying attention.
This post was edited on 11/5/08 at 1:00 am
Posted on 11/5/08 at 1:15 am to H-Town Tiger
Most people love a playoff till their teams get stiffed by a playoff.
It is entirely possible that one conference could get most of the playoff spots.
Under any scenario, their will always be people that complain about said scenario.
In 4 years, Pete could be crying about the Big X bias in the playoff.
If you want in, then win. Simple as that. And that is what make College football so exciting.
Look at NBA basketball, who gives a crap til the final month of the season. Nobody!
It is entirely possible that one conference could get most of the playoff spots.
Under any scenario, their will always be people that complain about said scenario.
In 4 years, Pete could be crying about the Big X bias in the playoff.
If you want in, then win. Simple as that. And that is what make College football so exciting.
Look at NBA basketball, who gives a crap til the final month of the season. Nobody!
Posted on 11/5/08 at 4:19 am to tubucoco
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if they do the right thing and go to playoff format, USC would be the odds on favorite because of their big game record.
If you're basing it on "big game record", wouldn't that make LSU the odds on favorite, seeing as how we're a better big game team than they are in the BCS era???
Posted on 11/5/08 at 4:37 am to Nittany Lion
quote:In Corvallis at night? I'd take OSU.
btw...Oregon State vs Ole Miss...who wins?
On a neutral field, it'd be a good ballgame.
Right now, Moevao is injured and Snead is healthy so I'd give a slight edge to Ole Miss based on that.
Vaught-Hemingway hasn't given Ole Miss any big home wins, so I don't know that it's much of an advantage.
Both of them are actually good to very good teams that have only "sealed the deal" once against top competition. UM caught UF napping on Jefferson-Pilot time, and the Beavs dominated the first half of a middle of the week game at home before the Trojans woke up.
Good food for thought though.
Posted on 11/5/08 at 6:53 am to shel311
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f you're basing it on "big game record", wouldn't that make LSU the odds on favorite, seeing as how we're a better big game team than they are in the BCS era
The BCS CG is not the only the big game hoss, check out how LSU did this year vs. Florida and UGA, we would not deserve to make a playoff, let alone be the favorite.
As for USC, they might the favorite to win it, anyone that thinks they would the odds on favorite over Florida is either an SC homer or on crack.
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