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re: Pete Carroll Comments on Stripped USC Title
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:04 pm to SouGent
Posted on 6/15/11 at 12:04 pm to SouGent
Wrong answer, Yankee Slut.
1. Kiffin cheated in the SEC, because damn near everybody cheats in the SEC. He also talked some good ol' fashion down home smack. He was made for the SEC.
2. He is a caretaker coach, but if he wins with one hand tied behind his back, he'll keep his job.
3. See above.
4. And the grass is green, and the sky is blue.
5. If this happens, he's gone before the damage is done.
6. Everybody is in the NCAA's microscope. We have implemented compliance in the extreme to avoid catastrophes that are befalling other schools like tOSU, Oregon, Auburn and Texas (allegedly in the case of the last 3).
Sic Semper Tyrannis
1. Kiffin cheated in the SEC, because damn near everybody cheats in the SEC. He also talked some good ol' fashion down home smack. He was made for the SEC.
2. He is a caretaker coach, but if he wins with one hand tied behind his back, he'll keep his job.
3. See above.
4. And the grass is green, and the sky is blue.
5. If this happens, he's gone before the damage is done.
6. Everybody is in the NCAA's microscope. We have implemented compliance in the extreme to avoid catastrophes that are befalling other schools like tOSU, Oregon, Auburn and Texas (allegedly in the case of the last 3).
Sic Semper Tyrannis
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Posted on 6/15/11 at 5:46 pm to GarmischTiger
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The LSU-USC animus is your vehicle, and you drive it perfectly.
I don't bring up USC. have brought them up out of the blue 2-3 times of all my posts, ever.
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This is the reason that - outside of the OT - you're widely regarded as one of the shittiest posters on this site.
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 6/15/11 at 5:59 pm to LSUTANGERINE
umad stfu
Posted on 6/15/11 at 6:34 pm to loweralabamatrojan
quote:yet Kiffin was on staff at USC during said violations that he's paying punishment for. Kiffin is pure USC material, which is why he was hired.
Kiffin cheated in the SEC, because damn near everybody cheats in the SEC. He also talked some good ol' fashion down home smack. He was made for the SEC.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 7:18 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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LSUTANGERINE
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The LSU-USC animus is your vehicle, and you drive it perfectly. I don't bring up USC. have brought them up out of the blue 2-3 times of all my posts, ever. quote:This is the reason that - outside of the OT - you're widely regarded as one of the shittiest posters on this site.
quote:
U MAD BRAH?
No. I'm not mad.
You, on the other hand, are absolutely full of shite.
And everybody knows it.
Posted on 6/15/11 at 7:33 pm to GarmischTiger
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LSUTangerine
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You, on the other hand, are absolutely full of shite.
+1. /thread
Posted on 6/15/11 at 9:16 pm to GarmischTiger
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You, on the other hand, are absolutely full of shite.
show me how many times i have started a USC topic that was not in response to a USC post by another. Go ahead.
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No. I'm not mad.
This post was edited on 6/15/11 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 6/16/11 at 1:24 am to LSUTANGERINE
No crystal ball.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 1:32 am to loweralabamatrojan
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1. Kiffin cheated in the SEC, because damn near everybody cheats in the SEC.
Kiffin cheated in teh SEC because that's what he was used to doing in the PAC 10... just like Yaw Yaw was at USC... and just like the bad hire LSU made from UCLA... first thing that dumb bastard did was violate NCAA rules and get himself fired and LSU into its most notable football problem with the NCAA
Posted on 6/16/11 at 1:52 am to molsusports
I do think Kiffen entered the lions den, looked around, and thought that was how the game was played. All the oversigning and notorious shenanigans you hear about.
USC/Kiffen never had any recruiting violations until Kiffen got to UT and Orgeron had been inside the SEC recently and knew how the game was played as his right hand man at UT. How come no one talks about Orgeron? He's always come across as more shady than Lane.
USC/Kiffen never had any recruiting violations until Kiffen got to UT and Orgeron had been inside the SEC recently and knew how the game was played as his right hand man at UT. How come no one talks about Orgeron? He's always come across as more shady than Lane.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 2:11 am to Zamoro10
Orgeron = yaw yaw from my earlier post
he and lane were peas in a pod... both came from teh same USC school of doing business and carried it forward
Esp considering teh stink at USC (when Orgeron and Kiffin were with Carroll prior to either coming to the SEC)... I don't know how people argue either Kiffin or Yaw Yaw came to the SEC as innocents abroad
he and lane were peas in a pod... both came from teh same USC school of doing business and carried it forward
Esp considering teh stink at USC (when Orgeron and Kiffin were with Carroll prior to either coming to the SEC)... I don't know how people argue either Kiffin or Yaw Yaw came to the SEC as innocents abroad
Posted on 6/16/11 at 2:25 am to molsusports
and it is beyond me how pac 10 fans suddenly understand Yaw Yaw is dirty AFTER he leaves teh PAC 10
for fricks sake his notoriety (good and bad) in the PAC was what an outstanding recruiter he was... what exactly is the thinking? He was thought of as one of the nation's top recruiters in teh country... and then after leaving the PAC suddenly learns how to recruit differently?
Come on. He's the same guy and what he did at USC is what he carried forward at Ole Miss and then UT
for fricks sake his notoriety (good and bad) in the PAC was what an outstanding recruiter he was... what exactly is the thinking? He was thought of as one of the nation's top recruiters in teh country... and then after leaving the PAC suddenly learns how to recruit differently?
Come on. He's the same guy and what he did at USC is what he carried forward at Ole Miss and then UT
Posted on 6/16/11 at 10:07 am to LSUTANGERINE
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LSUTANGERINE
You're this guy:
quote:See above.
show me how many times i have started a USC topic that was not in response to a USC post by another. Go ahead.
I didn't say you started USC topics willy-nilly, but that's where you steer the argument, because it's one you can win.
I said you are a shite-stirrer of the highest order, and the easiest way to stir shite is to come on the Rant or MSB and make borderline provacative statements that are guaranteed to get a rise out of someone and then immediately play the victim.
I don't need to prove this. Your posting history does.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:23 am to molsusports
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and it is beyond me how pac 10 fans suddenly understand Yaw Yaw is dirty AFTER he leaves teh PAC 10 for fricks sake his notoriety (good and bad) in the PAC was what an outstanding recruiter he was... what exactly is the thinking? He was thought of as one of the nation's top recruiters in teh country... and then after leaving the PAC suddenly learns how to recruit differently? Come on. He's the same guy and what he did at USC is what he carried forward at Ole Miss and then UT
It's laughable that you're trying to pin "dirty football" on the PAC 10 (now PAC 12 to be more accurate).
There are three categories of NCAA rule violators amongst the big names in College Football: Those caught and punished, those caught but not yet punished, and those yet to be caught. Nobody in big time football has a "squeaky clean" program. You can think it about ___________ (insert your favorite major CF program here), but it just isn't so. SEC teams, if you consider that most of them (with a few exceptions, you know who they are) are "big time" programs, well they're no different.
Even the most well meaning college football program with the best compliance department can't catch everything. Check out the NCAA's definition of "booster" and you'll find out that you just might be one. Don't get caught picking up the check for a player in the information age.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 11:37 am to loweralabamatrojan
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LSUTANGERINE
You must be under the age of 17 or just a butt hurt fricktard
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:38 pm to SMD
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LSUTANGERINE
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You must be under the age of 17 or just a butt hurt fricktard
Most likely, both!!
Posted on 6/16/11 at 12:50 pm to SouGent
Actually, neither. I think he's in his late-30s / early 40s and - truth be told - he really knows his shite when it comes to sports in general and college football specifically.
He just picks fights. It's juvenile and infuriating.
He just picks fights. It's juvenile and infuriating.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 1:55 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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It's laughable that you're trying to pin "dirty football" on the PAC 10 (now PAC 12 to be more accurate).
There are three categories of NCAA rule violators amongst the big names in College Football: Those caught and punished, those caught but not yet punished, and those yet to be caught. Nobody in big time football has a "squeaky clean" program.
I absolutely am not claiming PAC 10 football is the root of all cheating or necessarily worse than other parts of the country
What I was just pointing out is how silly some of the comments from PAC 10 fans were in this thread.
If you hear people arguing Kiffin must have gotten dirty when he came to the SEC... when people in the SEC widely considered him the dirtiest (or maybe second to Auburn )... that strikes random SEC fan as ridiculous
Similarly, when a SEC fan hears a random PAC 10 fan talk about how dirty Yaw Yaw (Ed Orgeron) was and then fail to mention where he came directly from... that is an obvious non-sequitor. I think he was dirty too... it is just striking that people are somehow trying to give him a complete pass for whatever he did while he was at USC... HOW? He was a famously good recruiter... the stuff that made him slimy is apparently the stuff that made him such a great recruiter at USC, Ole Miss, and UT
You can't just point to his time at Ole Miss and UT without people here saying... "wait a minute, he didn't learn that skill set in our conference - the guy came here with a certain reputation and just lived up to it"
And the case of DJ McCarthy at LSU does raise questions as well. Here is a guy who presumably came to LSU with his behavior and ethics already established and he went off the LSU reservation to provide housing benefits for a LSU recruit... The ease with which he made this decision has to suggest that is just the way things were done from his experiences at UCLA
Posted on 6/16/11 at 4:55 pm to molsusports
quote:Yeah, I guess I can see that. I am not speaking for all PAC fans, just me. And as far as McCarthy goes, you will seldom if ever hear me defend a bRuin. The only decent one I ever met was John Wooden, and he was a great man before he ever took the reins in Westwood.
Similarly, when a SEC fan hears a random PAC 10 fan talk about how dirty Yaw Yaw (Ed Orgeron) was and then fail to mention where he came directly from... that is an obvious non-sequitor. I think he was dirty too... it is just striking that people are somehow trying to give him a complete pass for whatever he did while he was at USC... HOW? He was a famously good recruiter... the stuff that made him slimy is apparently the stuff that made him such a great recruiter at USC, Ole Miss, and UT
As far as O goes, I am not really sure what folks are accusing him of. He is a great salesman that sold Sean Cody on USC a long time ago, and that one signing set the table for USC's success (yeah, I know a lot of that was administratively redacted, but F it, I still enjoyed the hell out of it) in the last decade.
So Bebe is OK with me. If I see him in Destin this summer I'll buy him a beer.
Posted on 6/16/11 at 7:34 pm to GarmischTiger
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the argument, because it's one you can win.
I'll give you this.
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