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re: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:35 pm to Sophandros
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:35 pm to Sophandros
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He is the most influential person in that part of the State of Pennsylvania. He knew from the start of it that the AD wouldn't go to the police (the real police, not campus police) because of how things went down in 1998. At that point he had a MORAL obligation to do something.
Sure, he did what was legally required of him, but as a human being, he failed.
Man, that's some serious speculation right there.
Could it be that JoePa knew everything and just kept his mouth shut to protect his buddy? Sure. But we don't know that. And actually, what we do know right now is that he did report something to his superiors. And yes, JoePa is HUGE in college football, but even he has a boss and people that he reports to. People act like JoePa is God and reports to nobody, which is false. He's not signing his own paychecks.
Again, in the end he could have tons of shite smeared on his face, but jumping to those conclusions at this point is ridiculous.
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Right, your comparison was horse shite.
Right, because the only negative consequences are legal consequences. Losing your reputation you've spent your whole life building is nothing in comparison to a doctor who makes 1 mil a year paying a $50,000 fine. Because it's not a legal consequence it can't be bad, right?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:35 pm to Lester Earl
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Id first ask the guy why hasn't he called the cops. frick the 2nd hand bullshite.
I think McQuery didn't call the cops because he was told not to--or else.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:35 pm to Nittany Lion
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Most of the people that I know that work in intercollegiate are expecting Joe to go this year (by latest next year) on his own so I think either way he's probably going to go.
i agree with this. honestly i know a lot of y'all are split on this and you seem to be one of the good nittany lions out there. i was indoctrinated into the PSU culture and so it has and always will stay with me and that is why sometimes i get infuriated with some of your fan base. so perhaps i jumped the gun so allow me to redact my statement. a majority of my dip shite friends think so. and it is too early i guess to expect real sides to be set without real concrete knowledge.
anyway, at this point if I am a die hard nittany lion i want this. fire spanier, clear house in the athletic department following a massive internal investigation, and then i have Joe Pa retire. nittany lions will want this just to be over so basically i think everyone should start anew
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:36 pm to JG77056
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At the top of page 11 you replied to my quoted reply about a situation where a stranger accuses your best friend of rape and you automatically believe the stranger. It's still there on page 11 if you want to go back and look, right at the top. Then you jumped in (ignorantly) apparently thinking I was comparing it to the JoePa situation and started spouting off without knowing what you were talking about.
I am talking solely about the JoPa situation, not your made up third party horse shite trying to justify JoPa's behavior.
You fear being a "narc" more than you fear doing the right thing, don't you Jethro?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:37 pm to Lester Earl
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a lot of speculation here.
1) that somehow joe Pa agreed with the other 2 that they shoudnt call the cops
2)that they put a gag order on the GA.
who knows. I'll let more facts come out before I make shite up.
OK, then provide another explanation of why NONE of these people, particularly the GA, contacted the police.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:37 pm to Lester Earl
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so would you say that he "failed as a human being"?
Yes, I would.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:37 pm to JG77056
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Right, because the only negative consequences are legal consequences. Losing your reputation you've spent your whole life building is nothing in comparison to a doctor who makes 1 mil a year paying a $50,000 fine. Because it's not a legal consequence it can't be bad, right?
It seems if JoPa had made the right decision, his reputation "he spent his whole life building" wouldn't be crumbling down, would it..?
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:38 pm to SprintFun
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If you take it to the AD and he says he'll handle it, and nothing seems to happen, don't you say "hey, whatever happened with him raping that kid?" And if he balks at it then don't you pursue a greater option?
Exactly.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I am talking solely about the JoPa situation, not your made up third party horse shite
Ohhhh, so you just quoted my made up, third party horse shite and then replied to something completely different than what you quoted? That makes total sense.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:40 pm to Sophandros
it is unfathomable what the administration allowed to happen here. He "retires" due to the first case of molestation. Part of the University agreement with his retirement is that he is allowed to retain an office on campus and keys to the athletic complex.
Anyone, and everyone, that had any knowledge of any of this should be thrown into the street by Penn State. The fan base and donors should revolt against the University until there is no one left that knew of this.
My only hope is that this POS didn't molest hundreds of kids. He was given an avenue to continue the actions with zero accountability. It is already extremely ugly. The numbers could just get out of this world bad.
Anyone, and everyone, that had any knowledge of any of this should be thrown into the street by Penn State. The fan base and donors should revolt against the University until there is no one left that knew of this.
My only hope is that this POS didn't molest hundreds of kids. He was given an avenue to continue the actions with zero accountability. It is already extremely ugly. The numbers could just get out of this world bad.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:40 pm to JG77056
WFT are you blabbing about? I just responded to you calling me a narc for no reason.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It seems if JoPa had made the right decision, his reputation "he spent his whole life building" wouldn't be crumbling down, would it..?
Totally, having one of your assistant coaches raping kids looks awesome on a resume.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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WFT are you blabbing about? I just responded to you calling me a narc for no reason
No, you responded to me calling Commandeaux a narc for a good reason.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:42 pm to CocomoLSU
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Could it be that JoePa knew everything and just kept his mouth shut to protect his buddy? Sure. But we don't know that. And actually, what we do know right now is that he did report something to his superiors. And yes, JoePa is HUGE in college football, but even he has a boss and people that he reports to. People act like JoePa is God and reports to nobody, which is false. He's not signing his own paychecks.
Please, provide a more likely explanation for:
1) Sandusky "retired" shortly after his investigation for sexually assaulting young boys,
2) Sandusky had other incidents over time on PSU's campus, yet was allowed to stick around,
3) McQuery witnesses an assault taking place, runs the JoePa, NEITHER OF THEM CALL THE COPS ON A NON-EMPLOYEE RAPING A CHILD ON CAMPUS, and the incident is kept quiet for a while.
Yes, there was a cover up. Two men have turned themselves in. When they testify, I would be surprised if the things that I speculate here didn't happen. Again, how is McQuery made to stay silent for 8 years?
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:43 pm to JG77056
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quote:
WFT are you blabbing about? I just responded to you calling me a narc for no reason
No, you responded to me calling Commandeaux a narc for a good reason.
So do you think Paterno would be a "narc" (I am really laughing at your use of this, and fear of it for some reason) for turning in Sandusky to the cops for what he was told?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
SVP just WENT OFF on this issue on his show.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:43 pm to Sophandros
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McQuery witnesses an assault taking place, runs the JoePa, NEITHER OF THEM CALL THE COPS ON A NON-EMPLOYEE RAPING A CHILD ON CAMPUS, and the incident is kept quiet for a while.
and what 8-9 years go by without any follow-up by JoePa?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:44 pm to BayouBengals03
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SVP just WENT OFF on this issue on his show.
what did he say?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:44 pm to Sophandros
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OK, then provide another explanation of why NONE of these people, particularly the GA, contacted the police.
the GA may have not said anything on his own accord. It doesn't mean he was told not to.
He was young, trying to make it up the coaching ladder. Maybe he picked his career over what was going on with Sandusky. Its not that far fetched.
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