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re: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired

Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:20 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:20 pm to
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McQueary is at equal fault with Paterno




Anyone who didn't prevent it from occurring again are at fault.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285048 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

McQueary is at equal fault with Paterno




This comment just shows where you head is at.


the man who witnessed a molestation first hand, who has remained on PSU coaching staff for the last 8 years around Sandusky, is equally at fault as Joe Paterno is. I honestly can't stop laughing over here..
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281931 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:21 pm to
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Tell that to any doctor that rolls up on a car accident.





For real? This is the comparison you came up with? What legal liability does Paterno have for going to ghe cops?
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37498 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:22 pm to
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Let's pose this question; where do you put the blame on coach Mike McQueary, who was the grad assistant way back when that has since been on the Penn St coaching staff for the last 8 years.

You dont think he see Sandusky around the facilities?


Hard to put any blame on someone with no soul.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:23 pm to
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he called a meeting the next morning and told his higher ups the day after the Grad Asst came to him. lol


And somehow, all three of them agreed NOT to call the police, and they influenced the GA not to do so, either.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:23 pm to
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the man who witnessed a molestation first hand, who has remained on PSU coaching staff for the last 8 years around Sandusky, is equally at fault as Joe Paterno is. I honestly can't stop laughing over here..


OK, maybe he is at more fault. Doesn't change the fact the Paterno is in the same boat.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285048 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:24 pm to
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So if someone just told you that some guy down the hall is fricking a kid, would you call the cops or call a meeting the next morning?




Id first ask the guy why hasn't he called the cops. frick the 2nd hand bullshite.


And that scenario is nothing like what has played out here.


It is more like:

You are the manager of a restaurant. A waiter has came to you and said that another waiter inappropriately touched an underage hostess.

As manager you can do one of 2 things; alert your higher ups and let them handle it, or call the police. I don't think either one of them is the wrong option.
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12071 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:25 pm to
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It wasn't some stranger, Liberace.


quote:

If a stranger on the street told me my best friend raped a 28 year old, let alone a 10 year old kid, the first thing I would do is call the cops.


Awesome reading comprehension Rog, awesome. Try to keep up.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:26 pm to
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Where's the part of this that says "The police then went and told JoePa about the incident and he told the police to let it go because he's JoePa, almighty ruler of Penn St."?


It was a campus police investigation, so...
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5359 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:27 pm to
When victim 1's mother called the high school and reported the sexual assault to the football coach...they barred him from the high school and it was reported to authorities.

If they high school can get it right...why didn't JoePa? Instead, he still allowed him to groom boys at his practice.

Bye bye JoePa
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12071 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:27 pm to
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What legal liability does Paterno have for going to ghe cops?


Legal? zero. He just has his 70 year reputation, the reputation of his program, and his job to worry about. But no legal liability.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281931 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:27 pm to
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Awesome reading comprehension Rog, awesome. Try to keep up.




Not my words, Jethro. Never said that. Referring to Paterno
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285048 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:28 pm to
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And somehow, all three of them agreed NOT to call the police, and they influenced the GA not to do so, either.




a lot of speculation here.

1) that somehow joe Pa agreed with the other 2 that they shoudnt call the cops

2)that they put a gag order on the GA.


who knows. I'll let more facts come out before I make shite up.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:28 pm to
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Awesome reading comprehension Rog, awesome. Try to keep up.


Wow, not too bright I see. I'm done arguing with you. You proved yourself to be a dimwitted psychopath.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281931 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:28 pm to
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Legal? zero. He just has his 70 year reputation, the reputation of his program, and his job to worry about. But no legal liability.



Right, your comparison was horse shite.

Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Let's pose this question; where do you put the blame on coach Mike McQueary, who was the grad assistant way back when that has since been on the Penn St coaching staff for the last 8 years.


It's quite plausible that he was intimidated or compensated into NOT going to the police because of what it would do to Penn State.

I think that is something else that comes up in testimonies soon, and why it can get ugly.

But yeah, to allow yourself to be scared/bought into covering up child rape is pretty low, but not as low as intimidating/buying off someone to keep quiet.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285048 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:32 pm to
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It's quite plausible that he was intimidated or compensated into NOT going to the police because of what it would do to Penn State.





so would you say that he "failed as a human being"?
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45829 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:32 pm to
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You are the manager of a restaurant. A waiter has came to you and said that another waiter inappropriately touched an underage hostess.

As manager you can do one of 2 things; alert your higher ups and let them handle it, or call the police. I don't think either one of them is the wrong option.


But the problem with that is once you carry out one of those options, why was there no follow up? If you take it to the AD and he says he'll handle it, and nothing seems to happen, don't you say "hey, whatever happened with him raping that kid?" And if he balks at it then don't you pursue a greater option?
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12071 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:33 pm to
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Not my words, Jethro. Never said that. Referring to Paterno


At the top of page 11 you replied to my quoted reply about a situation where a stranger accuses your best friend of rape and you automatically believe the stranger. It's still there on page 11 if you want to go back and look, right at the top. Then you jumped in (ignorantly) apparently thinking I was comparing it to the JoePa situation and started spouting off without knowing what you were talking about.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45218 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:33 pm to
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Says the guy narcing on his friends without any evidence besides a stranger's hearsay.


In the JoePa situation, his subordinate came to him and told him this was going on.

JoePa (or the AD. or both) clearly used his influence to ensure that the GA didn't go to the cops with this.
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