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Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:55 pm to theunknownknight
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We covered these myths already.
What myths? Everything in there I posted was a fact. LeBron DID take the C's to 7 with 0 help. Kobe was blown out in 6 to the same team with plenty of help. Lets not forget the coaches. Mike Brown vs. Phil Jackson.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:56 pm to htran90
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I'm gonna add to this tidbit, Jordan's 4-6 he had higher fg% than Kobe did as well.
Yea I'm not sure why he threw Jordan in here
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:57 pm to theunknownknight
2001 was when he had the 29, 7 and 6, not sure what they were before the finals series
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:01 pm to jg8623
He needs to accept these facts so we can move along:
1. Kobe's 1st 3 rings was a beta role to Shaq's Alpha. Kobe was the alpha on the team in rings 4 and 5 though.
2. LeBron is a better individual player and more efficient than Kobe through their respective careers
3. In MJ's 6 rings and the stats that accompany it, they are better than any of Kobe's individual playoff performances/series
1. Kobe's 1st 3 rings was a beta role to Shaq's Alpha. Kobe was the alpha on the team in rings 4 and 5 though.
2. LeBron is a better individual player and more efficient than Kobe through their respective careers
3. In MJ's 6 rings and the stats that accompany it, they are better than any of Kobe's individual playoff performances/series
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:04 pm to theducks
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was a fact. LeBron DID take the C's to 7 with 0 help.
I'm not sure you know what fact means. Fact does not mean a statement that is completely false.
When did having:
-Shaq (all star caliber)
-Mo Williams (all star caliber)
-Antawn Jamison (all star caliber)
-Big Z (all star caliber - 17/10 per 36 career)
-Anderson Varejao (14/14 player)
-J.J. Hickson (15/10 per 36 career player)
-Danny Green (14/5 per 36 player)
= ZERO help?
It goes back to my point: players magically suck when playing with Lebron.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:14 pm to htran90
quote:
He needs to accept these facts so we can move along:
1. Kobe's 1st 3 rings was a beta role to Shaq's Alpha. Kobe was the alpha on the team in rings 4 and 5 though.
2. LeBron is a better individual player and more efficient than Kobe through their respective careers
3. In MJ's 6 rings and the stats that accompany it, they are better than any of Kobe's individual playoff performances/series
1. Kobe was the alpha through the toughest teams in virtually every title run. Shaq even admitted as much in a press conference after the spurs series during ring #2. Said he was the "best player in the NBA".
2. Lebron ran to 2-3 other HOF'ers to win anything. One of which was already a proven winner. He is forever out of greatness conversations unless he truly leads a team without stacking the deck before he gets there.
3. First, Jordan's stats were inflated bc he played in the run and gun "defense is a myth" 80's. The ENTIRE NBA was shooting over 50% in those days. He also had the benefit of playing against slower smaller players until the SG position caught up with him. Second, Jordan played on great teams with multiple HoFers as well. To his credit, though, he didn't go run crying to Bird and Magic like a brony so there's that I guess.
In the end:
Kobe > Jordan > Shaq > Pippen > Lebron
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:17 pm to theunknownknight
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-Shaq (all star caliber)
-Mo Williams (all star caliber)
-Antawn Jamison (all star caliber)
-Big Z (all star caliber - 17/10 per 36 career)
-Anderson Varejao (14/14 player)
-J.J. Hickson (15/10 per 36 career player)
-Danny Green (14/5 per 36 player)
I'm done here. You truly can't reason with people who think Kobe is GOAT and have unreasonable hate for LeBron. All the guys you mentioned here retired shortly after, were cut by the Cavs, or sitting the bench shortly after.
Hickson, who was dealt then cut? Green pre San Antonio? Shaq being an All-star caliber still? Big Z who retired a year later hardly doing anything on Heat?
Yes, it was ZERO Help.
Carry on.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:17 pm to theunknownknight
you gave me two great days of laughter. I'm not gonna even lie.
Thanks
were you this chap by any chance?
Thanks
were you this chap by any chance?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:18 pm to theunknownknight
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Shaq even admitted as much in a press conference after the spurs series during ring #2. Said he was the "best player in the NBA".
Want to know how I know you've never played for a team before?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:23 pm to theducks
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I'm done here. You truly can't reason with people who think Kobe is GOAT and have unreasonable hate for LeBron. All the guys you mentioned here retired shortly after, were cut by the Cavs, or sitting the bench shortly after.
Actually only two retired shortly thereafter. The remaining played for a while or are still playing.
It's funny you call me unreasonable after I point out facts to EASILY refute the "he had ZERO help" non-sense.
This post was edited on 3/7/14 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:25 pm to htran90
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you gave me two great days of laughter. I'm not gonna even lie.
Thanks
were you this chap by any chance?
That's what I'm here for
And no, I am much sexier :mirrorpic:
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:26 pm to theducks
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Want to know how I know you've never played for a team before?
Thought you were done?
Have a nice weekend. It's been fun...easy, but fun.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:34 pm to theunknownknight
Be glad when you are gone again, keep sucking that Kobe dick though how's it taste? Won't even go down down as one of the too 10 ever must less #1 
fricking idiot
how's it taste? Won't even go down down as one of the too 10 ever must less #1 fricking idiot
Posted on 3/7/14 at 6:45 pm to TigerBait2008
Derp derp. You've gone full...
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Posted on 3/7/14 at 7:48 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Name a team in the past 25 years that was worse than the 06-07 Cavs to make the finals? 00-01 76ers is only team to come close.
Nothing? Still waiting...
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:08 pm to stevo1905
Easily the goat
Posted on 3/7/14 at 8:55 pm to theunknownknight
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-Shaq (all star caliber)
Didnt he average 12 ppg that season and was oldest guy in NBA that year?
Are you a blonde that lives in Colorado? Sorry Mr. Bryant took advantage of you.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:42 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Nothing? Still waiting...
Waiting for what? It's already been agreed upon the 2007 Eastern Conference was the worst in history. It stands to reason a terrible team with an overrated star would make it to the finals that year.
Thanks for making my point?
Posted on 3/7/14 at 9:44 pm to LasVegasTiger
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Didnt he average 12 ppg that season and was oldest guy in NBA that year?
Oh...that excuses players now? So we strike Malone and Payton from the 2004 Laker team.
Or do the excuses only work when used for Lebron? Wouldn't surprise me, that's beta logic.
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