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re: Patriots already cheating.....Headset issues game 1; Tomlin was pissed

Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:58 am to
You're dense.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 10:59 am to
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So what’s the difference between that problem the Jets had in Pittsburgh, and the problem the Steelers had last night in New England? The biggest difference seems to be that the Jets didn’t accuse the Steelers of any wrongdoing, and Jets coach Rex Ryan said after the game that the communications issue wasn’t the reason the Jets lost the game. The Steelers haven’t been so accommodating toward the Patriots in the wake of last night’s loss.


Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:00 am to
Answer the damn question! What would the Patriots have to gain from altering radio waves to coaches headsets after going through a 7 month long cheating investigation?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:04 am to
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on't you think they'd look into this "stadium power infrastructure issue" and why does this "power infrastructure issue" only occur to opposing team radios. If it happened to the Patriots, I'm sure they'd fix it.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist cry baby, just wondering how something that is a known issue goes unaddressed.


Power fluctuations are a horrible reason for communication failures and could likely be fixed extremely easily and cheaply
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:05 am to
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nswer the damn question! What would the Patriots have to gain from altering radio waves to coaches headsets after going through a 7 month long cheating investigation?


Are you seriously asking what would they gain from disrupting communications in a football game?
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:07 am to
Cmon everyone has those Oregon style signs ha.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:11 am to
If you are looking at the big picture, yes. I would like to know why they would go out of their way to cheat after being under the public microscope for cheating for the past 7 months. To me, they would have a lot more to lose than to gain to try and pull that off but that's me
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8639 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:19 am to
The idea of beaming Zo into Tomlin's ear on the first drive of opening night after the last 7 months is laugh out loud funny.

Common sense is really uncommon on this thread
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:25 am to
And to cheat in a way that is actually set up and controlled by the NFL. The Pats have some balls
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:40 am to
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you are looking at the big picture, yes.


You asked a really stupid question with a very obvious answer. If they cheated, it would be for a competitive advantage to hell win. Disruption of communication would be a substantial advantage.

Anyways, I don't think they cheated here. I think the NFL is pathetic for not having better controls and redundant systems for this and deflategate
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53476 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:45 am to
Again, the home team is responsible for setup and maintenance coordinated with NFL consultants. So no, this isn't "NFL controlled".


Again, even if nothing nefarious is going on, the continued list of excuses provided, and " power infrastructure issue"....its a multi hundred million dollar with heaters in the turf, yet the power grid can't handle visiting teams radios?
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8639 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:45 am to
To think the Patriots organization purposefully disrupted the radio signals (cheat) on the first drive of the NFL season, you would have to assume Belicheck and company are not just dumb, but fricking psychotic dumb. And if you assume that, then you've already lost the argument. There is no logical argument that can be made as to why they would do such a stupid thing to gain such a minuscule advantage
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:54 am to
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you would have to assume Belicheck and company are not just dumb, but fricking psychotic dumb. And if you assume that, then you've already lost the argument.


Sound tight logic right there /s
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75070 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:54 am to
Its funny that you can tell the auditors are by the people hammering internal controls.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75070 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:55 am to
Plenty of smart people have done insanely idiotic things.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 11:57 am to
if it was purposeful, it is absolutely hilarious
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8639 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 12:06 pm to
But does this sound like something logical? Especially after the past 7 months?

And I agree with Carson, if they actually tried to pull this off, this is fricking hilarious. I will also gladly eat crow if it's true but I 1000% doubt it is
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 12:09 pm to
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But does this sound like something logical? Especially after the past 7 months?



I mean you can say the same thing about plenty of instances of fraud around the country and the world.

People still attempt it despite watchful eyes, investigations, and controls in place

Hell, look at the Masahi Muromachi scandal with Toshiba. He was the CEO, do you think he was intelligent?

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The Steelers really are whining today. This pissed me off when we played Bama. They did it to us, no penalty. We did it to them, penalty

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If a quarterback can use a hard count timed in the cadence to draw a neutral zone infraction, the DL can use a shift timed in the cadence to draw an offside.

This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 9/11/15 at 12:11 pm to
Cowherd was playing the pats broadcast that the steelers were having to listen to during the game. Scott Zolak going crazy when Gronk caught his td in the back of the endzone would get old quick.

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HASN'T PLAYED ALL PRESEASON. SIX FOOT SEVEN. LINE UP THE BIG GUY AND CUT HIM LOOSE. WHY? BECAUSE YOU CANNOT STOP HIM!


That's what was playing in their headsets.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
53994 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 12:12 pm to
How about this? Roger Goodell told the people controlling communication to intentionally screw with Tomlins staff to keep the Patriots cheating saga going.
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