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re: Pac-12 commish: USC should get nod over 'Bama with win over Stanford
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:41 am to ToesOnTheNose213
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:41 am to ToesOnTheNose213
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Yep. USC should've scheduled Mercer instead of Notre Dame, and played one less conference game so the we could've played Fresno state instead of Wazzu. Then we could be undefeated and get into the playoffs.
There's clearly no benefit to having a tough schedule. Just schedule like Wisky or UW or Bama this year and you're golden.
Trust me, I absolutely do not want Alabama backing their way in...again. I'm pulling for Wisconsin and Oklahoma to pull it out tonight so they are shut out.
That said, Fresno State apparently wasn't too bad of a team this year (9-3 and in the Top 25). Mercer is atrocious.
I'll give Alabama credit for making an attempt to schedule someone good for their OOC - Florida State. Year in and year out, you can't deny that Florida State is a top program. They obviously were on terrible, but that was the Gameday Game of the Week for a reason.
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 11:48 am
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:41 am to lsusystem
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Alabama does not deserve to be in the playoff as they did not make the conference championship game.
Well that's retarded.
UGA has one loss also to the same team and was beaten much worse, but they get a shot at the conf title simply because of division.
Conference title should not be a pre-req for getting into the playoff.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:43 am to dcrews
That's like Shiela Jackson Lee saying Hillary would be better than Trump
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:44 am to sms151t
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What does last year have to do with this year? Darnold was not playing. Bama has different guys also
To be fair, Darnold did play the second half of the game last year against Alabama.
Still your point remains, different teams.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:44 am to ToesOnTheNose213
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There's clearly no benefit to having a tough schedule.
So you should get credit just for scheduling certain teams?
It has to matter if you're getting blown out. Why do people want to give teams a pass for losing by 35+ points just because "they scheduled a tougher team"?
If you're going to schedule a tough team, don't get waxed then expect to get credit just for scheduling.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:51 am to Old
Stanford is better then any team Alabama has beaten. Keep sucking their dick while they get beat down by Auburn and struggle to beat teams like Mississippi State. Its a joke that Bama is even being considered for a playoff spot.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:57 am to dcrews
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So you should get credit just for scheduling certain teams?
ya, you should
P5 games should matter more than G5/FCS games
it shouldnt even be up for debate
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:58 am to rocket31
Yes, the mighty Kansas Jayhawks are clearly a bigger test than Boise, UCF, Memphis, SDSU etc. 
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:59 am to ToesOnTheNose213
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Agreed, but I'd add that UCF should have to lose too. UCF wins today, I say put them in. They'd have won every game, won their conference, and if they don't get into the playoffs after all that, then what the hell is point of having these non-P5 conferences in the same division as P5? In the immortal words of Beerfest, "Let them drink!"
Hey, UCF's my team, I'd love that. It is tough to justify with a 4-team playoff, though. At some point I think we need to move up the final remaining worthy G5 teams to the P5 (UCF, Houston, BYU, Navy, USF, Cincy, ECU, and Boise St). ECU is in a big down period right now, but they're usually selling out a 50k stadium and often beat P5 teams. Those programs, with the proper resources, would easily exceed the lower-level P5 teams and a few could do what Utah and TCU have done.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:59 am to Old
This is not as bad as Saban changing his mind on a yearly basis about whether a team that doesn't get to the conference final should be in the playoff.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:59 am to rocket31
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ya, you should
P5 games should matter more than G5/FCS games
it shouldnt even be up for debate
If you're scheduling tougher teams OOC and losing by single digits, that's one thing.
But you can't lose by 35 and say "Well we deserve credit for the loss, because the team was ranked".
A good team should beat Mercer, and a not good team should lose to a ranked team by 35. What's the difference?
You shouldn't get a pass for getting waxed by 35, even to a ranked team. It's a really bad loss no matter which way you slice it.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:00 pm to Dr RC
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Yes, the mighty Kansas Jayhawks are clearly a bigger test than Boise, UCF, Memphis, SDSU etc
simpleton logic
If the Kansas Jayhawks played a poverty schedule like UCF or Memphis, etc
im sure they could produce similar results
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:01 pm to TheBuescherMan
quote:
Hey, UCF's my team, I'd love that. It is tough to justify with a 4-team playoff, though. At some point I think we need to move up the final remaining worthy G5 teams to the P5 (UCF, Houston, BYU, Navy, USF, Cincy, ECU, and Boise St). ECU is in a big down period right now, but they're usually selling out a 50k stadium and often beat P5 teams. Those programs, with the proper resources, would easily exceed the lower-level P5 teams and a few could do what Utah and TCU have done.
Why though?
Are the Big 12 and Pac 12 really so much better than the AAC to the point an undefeated ACC champ should have no claim? B/c honestly... I kind of think they aren't.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:02 pm to dcrews
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A good team should beat Mercer, and a not good team should lose to a ranked team by 35. What's the difference?
You shouldn't get a pass for getting waxed by 35, even to a ranked team. It's a really bad loss no matter which way you slice it
i agree that there is some nuance and the ND debacle certainly impacts USC
but most people just see the 1 beside Bamas (11-1) name in the LOSS column and automatically assume they are better than USC because they have a 2 (11-2)
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:02 pm to rocket31
Kansas had a 2 game series with Memphis.
2015
Memphis 55
Kansas 23
2016
Memphis 43
Kansas 7
Would hate to see what Memphis would do to Kansas this year.
2015
Memphis 55
Kansas 23
2016
Memphis 43
Kansas 7
Would hate to see what Memphis would do to Kansas this year.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:03 pm to Dr RC
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B/c honestly... I kind of think they aren't.
decades worth of NFL draft picks says they are, so..
ok
This post was edited on 12/2/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:04 pm to rocket31
quote:
simpleton logic
If the Kansas Jayhawks played a poverty schedule like UCF or Memphis, etc
im sure they could produce similar results
No. No they wouldn't. Kansas lost by double digits to both Ohio and Central Michigan.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:05 pm to TheBuescherMan
quote:
Kansas had a 2 game series with Memphis.
i mean both are historically awful teams
its not like people schedule Memphis and think "damn this team is gonna be elite this year"
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:05 pm to rocket31
quote:
i agree that there is some nuance and the ND debacle certainly impacts USC
but most people just see the 1 beside Bamas (11-1) name in the LOSS column and automatically assume they are better than USC because they have a 2 (11-2)
For sure. I agree with you for the most part.
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