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re: Official: The Masters thread : Bubba Watson wins!

Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 9:56 pm to
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Dustin Johnson can pound it too


I'm not sure he has the short game for Augusta.


I posted this on the last page, just wanted to bring it to the top of this one, thought it was pretty interesting.


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ETA: I think you have to be a pretty long player to win at the current Augusta set up. It plays almost 7500 yards. Outside of Trevor Immelman and Zach Johnson The last 8 winners or so have been long hitters.

Just looked Immelman was 4th in driving distance that week, and Zach Johnson won with an over par score for the week. So I treat that as a fluke.

I think you have to go all the way back to Mike Weir to find a short hitter that has won in the last 12 years, and even then the course wasn't at its current length.



So basically you have to be long and have a REALLY good short game.
This post was edited on 4/2/12 at 9:58 pm
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
10310 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:09 pm to
I completely agree, I threw in DJ for prostyle's hypothetical-rain situation. If Augusta gets wet the false-fronts and drop offs from the greens won't be nearly as fast or intimidating. IMO when it rains the true ball-strikers usually get confident because it takes scrambling out of the thought process.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:11 pm to
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IMO when it rains the true ball-strikers usually get confident because it takes scrambling out of the thought process.


I semi agree with this, the greens are less challenging, but players are taking longer shots into the greens because the course plays longer.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:14 pm to
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the greens are less challenging

I think perspective is needed here. When a less challenging green is like the side of a mountain and is running a 12 on the stimp, it's still hard as frick.

Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28940 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:17 pm to
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I think perspective is needed here. When a less challenging green is like the side of a mountain and is running a 12 on the stimp, it's still hard as frick.


Oh I agree, but soft greens are easier to play on than rockhard greens. That's what I meant.

Instead of a 10 out of 10, they become 7-8 out of 10
Posted by MrCoachKlein
Member since Sep 2010
10310 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:21 pm to
It always comes down to course management, IMO it's just easier to manage a course (especially like Augusta) when it's damp and you can go straight at it
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28940 posts
Posted on 4/2/12 at 10:25 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 6:49 am to
What time should we see pairings come out today?


Anyone know?
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/3/12 at 7:22 am to
quote:

I'm not sure he has the short game for Augusta.


DJ doesn't have the short game for anywhere.
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16265 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 7:51 am to
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, IMO it's just easier to manage a course (especially like Augusta) when it's damp and you can go straight at it

No offense MrCoachKlein...but it's easier to manage any course when it's damp! If you can throw a 7-iron a certain yardage and get it to stop within 10 ft. then it's going to be easier no matter where you play!
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:03 am to
Why did Ryo get an invite? I was scrolling through the invites on the Masters website and he didnt have a certian reason to be invited... seems like that invite could have been used better(cough, Ernie, cough)
Posted by BeaverPRO
Tampa
Member since Aug 2009
16265 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:07 am to
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Why did Ryo get an invite? I was scrolling through the invites on the Masters website and he didnt have a certian reason to be invited... seems like that invite could have been used better(cough, Ernie, cough)



From master.com
quote:

Received a special invitation to compete in the 2012 Masters. Has competed in the three previous Tournaments, his best finish coming last year when he tied for 20th. Has accumulated nine victories worldwide, including his first as a 15-year-old amateur in 2007. Finished T4 at the 2011 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational. Also finished solo second at the 2012 Puerto Rico Open. Has competed in the Presidents Cup twice (2009, 2011).
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41125 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:09 am to
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Received a special invitation to compete in the 2012 Masters. Has competed in the three previous Tournaments, his best finish coming last year when he tied for 20th. Has accumulated nine victories worldwide, including his first as a 15-year-old amateur in 2007. Finished T4 at the 2011 WGC-Bridgestone Invitational. Also finished solo second at the 2012 Puerto Rico Open. Has competed in the Presidents Cup twice (2009, 2011).


bullshite... They should have told the truth

"We want the Japanese ratings... You're invited to come play in the Masters, Ryo"
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:12 am to
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No offense MrCoachKlein...but it's easier to manage any course when it's damp! If you can throw a 7-iron a certain yardage and get it to stop within 10 ft. then it's going to be easier no matter where you play!
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6262 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:25 am to
I'm not sure if it has been posted, but here's a video of Kaymer's ace skipping on the water.

LINK
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28940 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:37 am to
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What time should we see pairings come out today?


I'm not sure, but I would guess sometime early afternoon? Maybe after or around the major player press conferences.



Also about the special invite, I just read last night that Ernie said he would turn it down even if they offered this year.
This post was edited on 4/3/12 at 8:39 am
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:37 am to


love this
Posted by BLIZZAKE7
BRLA
Member since Apr 2005
6262 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:40 am to
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KingRanch

Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28940 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:42 am to
Anyone else watching Live on The Masters website? You can watch people on the range right now.
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
61759 posts
Posted on 4/3/12 at 8:43 am to
i would assume he's setting up shop across the front gates again in the run down shopping center, last year Daly was posted up in his motor home selling John Daly merchandise.
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