re: Official Jackwoods NBA Free Agency / trade szn primer Thread

Posted by David Ricky

Hailing From Parts Unknown

Member since Sep 2015

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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:12 pm to 21JumpStreet

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Fire

If they would just fix the road forum blues, you could make a very strong argument the Lakers have the best set of uniforms across all pro sports imo

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Also is AD going to 23 this season and Bron back to 6?

No idea but I doubt it with corona fricking up production like it has and all the Lakers promotional stuff for next year still has AD 3 and Lebron 23

Posted by jackwoods4

Member since Sep 2013

28667 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:21 pm to Fun Bunch

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Kawhi on recruiting Serge: "I ain't got time to be telling you all the things LA has.... So that was my text, 'are you coming or not?'"

Posted by Fun Bunch

New Orleans

Member since May 2008

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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:24 pm to jackwoods4

Did Kawhi spit out a series of Zeros and Ones after that

Posted by Open Your Eyes

Member since Nov 2012

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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:31 pm to Boomshockalocka

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Lebron has built a super team and did not Even win a title 3 times.

2010 was a failure by Lebron that is acknowledged by literally everyone. Meanwhile we’re still waiting for your film breakdown of harden’s epic choke job against an absolutely decimated spurs team.

2014 saw his other 2 allstar teammates perform even worse than Chris Paul did last year when you proclaimed he was no longer good enough to be robin.

2016 was to another, better superteam.

What points are you failing at making here?

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harden didn’t even consider a super team until age 31.

WBB, remember your “here jimmy jimmy” post last summer when you thought Butler was going to the rockets? Before butler admittedly “ghosted” harden? Why do you have to lie all the time?

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Lebron hasn’t come close to winning a title w out either a super team or a top 5 player and unbelievable injury luck.

Amazing how this used to be just a superteam.

Harden hasn’t come close to leading a team to the finals, much less winning a championship, as the best player.

Also, that top 5 player could’ve forced his way to play with harden instead of Lebron wbb. Why didn’t he?

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Lebron is better overall player but harden has been better for several years.

Harden has never and at this point likely will never be a basketball player than Lebron.

Posted by SLafourche07

Member since Feb 2008

9928 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:31 pm to Boomshockalocka

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I am,, ugh, not liking what i see. Is one of his legs longer than the other? Look how he stands.

“Oh you”

Posted by Boomshockalocka

Member since Feb 2004

59692 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:46 pm to Open Your Eyes

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2014 saw his other 2 allstar teammates perform even worse than Chris Paul

2 all star teammates. Harden had 1. Chris didn’t hold up his end of the deal. Lebrons guys mah have underperformed, but he had 2 of them. If harden had another all star who had underperformed, they would still be a good player, and he would have clearly advanced.
We saw him outplay KD and steph across the board.

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Before butler admittedly “ghosted” harden?

Butler “ghosted” lebron.

Butler was reportedly enamored with the idea of playing for the Lakers last time he was ready to hit the free agent market in 2015. Why doesn’t Butler want to play for the Lakers anymore? According to ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, it’s because of the presence of LeBron James. Butler had once imagined playing for the Los Angeles Lakers, but LeBron James’ arrival as the franchise’s cornerstone made it less appealing for Butler in the prime of his career, league sources said.

You post lie on top of casual take on top of goofy take I can’t even respond to the rest. It is Friday afternoon I ain’t got the want to go back and forth.

Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

Member since Aug 2004

110778 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:48 pm to Boomshockalocka

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If harden had another all star who had underperformed, they would still be a good player, and he would have clearly advanced.

Like last year against the Lakers?

Posted by Boomshockalocka

Member since Feb 2004

59692 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:53 pm to shel311

He had 1 all star. Lebron had 2.

If harden had a super team russ could have sucked and harden and the other guy woulda handled it. Bc lake show could not guard him without doubling. Alll he needed was someone, anyone, who could take advantage of a 4 on 3. Lebron has had super teams and still didn’t win titles. That is what he is the GOAT at. Most times with a super team and still don’t win it all.

Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

Member since Aug 2004

110778 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:56 pm to Boomshockalocka

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If harden had a super team russ could have sucked and harden and the other guy woulda handled it. Bc lake show could not guard him without doubling. Alll he needed was someone, anyone, who could take advantage of a 4 on 3. Lebron has had super teams and still didn’t win titles. That is what he is the GOAT at. Most times with a super team and still don’t win it all.

Sounds like a lot of excuses for the guy leading the team you predicted to win the lsat 3 or 4 titles.

Chrissy's fault, Westbrook's fault. GM Harden just can't get it done, signing off on all these dudes who can't perform in the postseason.

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Posted by Boomshockalocka

Member since Feb 2004

59692 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 4:00 pm to shel311

Kinda like you blame lebron help every time he loses.

and especially when he can’t even get a game off GSW. they didn’t even break a sweat.

Posted by Boomshockalocka

Member since Feb 2004

59692 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 4:06 pm to Boomshockalocka

Harden game score > lebron game score

And we know your love for love game score. You posted reference to it 50 times here.

Posted by Boomshockalocka

Member since Feb 2004

59692 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 4:08 pm to Fun Bunch

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Josh Hart has been letting JJ Redick stay in his New Orleans guest room until Redick finds a place to live. Hart joked that he decided to treat Redick like a son: "At night I tuck him in, give him a kiss on the forehead and tell him good night, then wake him up in the morning."

Ahhh.. this is why JJ said it’s our last year in New Orleans over the offseason.. It’s bc the family stayed in BKN this season. It is just J by himself.

Posted by Open Your Eyes

Member since Nov 2012

9252 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 4:16 pm to Boomshockalocka

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2 all star teammates. Harden had 1.

Being that you literally are incapable of understanding there is a difference between regular season and playoff performance, it’s not at all surprising you fail to understand the fact that that Dwayne Wade being an allstar in 2014 had nothing to do with his 11.7 PER, 7.9 gs, and -3.8 bpm in the finals that year.

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Lebrons guys mah have underperformed, but he had 2 of them.

Chris bosh “underperformed”. Wade was an overall net negative player against the spurs even worse than Westbrook was this year against the lakers. That’s not underperforming WBB.

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If harden had another all star who had underperformed, they would still be a good player, and he would have clearly advanced.

Or more likely based on other all star teammates that magically get considerably worse when they start playing with him, you would be blaming the 3rd allstar for another harden choke job. And they would not have advanced.

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We saw him outplay KD and steph across the board.

No one saw this.

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Butler “ghosted” lebron.

No butler didn’t want to play with Lebron. Not uncommon at all for players to have others they don’t want to play with. Harden knows that better than anyone doesn’t he?

That was the Rockets’ Plan A, and they were optimistic that they’d be able to pull it off as free agency neared, based on Butler’s discussions with Harden. Then, according to a team source, Butler “ghosted” them, not returning calls and texts before he agreed to a deal with the Miami Heat.

Butler literally ghosted harden. That’s how much respect harden has by other star players.

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You post lie

Quote a lie from me WBB.

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on top of casual take on top of goofy take

From the guy that brought you:

#sleepwalkto60
Carmelo 6th man of the year
Mcw most improved player
Harden best player in the league
Rockets over warriors in 6 and 7
Rockets nba champions
Harden finals mvp
Harden mvp over Giannis
Rockets best team in bubble
Harden best player in bubble
Lakers losing to Portland
Lakers losing to Houston

Etc.

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I can’t even respond to the rest. It is Friday afternoon I ain’t got the want to go back and forth

You can pick any time on any day of the week WBB, and there will likely be ample evidence of you failing to respond to my posts

Posted by jackwoods4

Member since Sep 2013

28667 posts

Posted on 12/4/20 at 10:06 pm to Open Your Eyes

First schedule drop happened

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National TV games for the 2020-21 season:

Lakers - 16
Celtics - 14
Mavericks - 14
Pelicans - 14
Warriors - 14
Nets - 13
Bucks - 12
Clippers - 11
Heat - 10
76ers - 9
Suns - 9
Rockets - 7
Nuggets - 6
Blazers - 5
Jazz - 4
Raptors - 4
Grizzlies - 3

(Via @basketballtalk )

Posted by ThanosIsADemocrat

The Garden

Member since May 2018

9395 posts

Posted on 12/5/20 at 1:34 am to jackwoods4

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2 all star teammates. Harden had 1. Chris didn’t hold up his end of the deal.

ETA: Chris Paul is punk.

This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 1:35 am

Posted by cgrand

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Member since Oct 2009

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Posted on 12/6/20 at 5:04 pm to shel311

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If harden had a super team russ could have sucked and harden and the other guy woulda handled it.

harden shipped the 1st official rockets practice

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Stephen Silas on James Harden's commitment to the Rockets: "That's a question you're going to have to ask him when he gets here."

Posted by shel311

McKinney, Texas

Member since Aug 2004

110778 posts

Posted on 12/6/20 at 5:08 pm to cgrand

Looks like Harden has to quarantine because going to some dudes birthday party to give him $600k worth of gifts was more important than his job.

Silas is already done with him.

Posted by Open Your Eyes

Member since Nov 2012

9252 posts

Posted on 12/6/20 at 5:18 pm to shel311

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I'm told from a western source @Celtics actually did some research on James Harden to decide if they should pursue a trade discussion... They were strongly advised to keep away. The word on how things slipped apart in Houston didn't paint a lot of people in a very good light.