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re: Official Australian Open Thread

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Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:00 am to
gilles simon is awful, i have no idea how this guy made it to the quarters. he's afraid to hit the ball hard during a rally, the damn ladies hit way harder than this guy.

nadal has been lucky as hell so far. he's about to be in the semis and his hardest competition has been ???? gilles simon? a whipped, obviously exhausted gonzalez? tsonga losing was a big break for him as well. verdasco has looked great, but he's 0-6 against nadal in his career with some real beatings in there. this has been a dream draw for nadal to win his first hard court slam
Posted by barry
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 1:00 pm to
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and he's moving like he's 19.


It looks like he's dropped 20-30 lbs.
Posted by TigerSpy
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 1:43 pm to
17 according to him , last night.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 1:52 pm to
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I have to admit that the changes he's made in his serve are impressive and he looks like he is ready to take a serious run at just about all of the majors this year.


he does look like he improved his game a great deal on hard courts. i'm still not sold on him being able to win the US Open unless he gets another very easy draw. that court is so much faster than this one and while he's playing much better, you could still see some weaknesses last night against simon that a big hitter would have capitalized on.
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 4:02 pm to
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I'm also going to be really interested in seeing who steps up to truly challenge him on clay.


the way he crushed everyone at the french open last year makes me think it's going to be a while. i think the only way anyone else wins the french within the next year or two is if he is injured
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 6:06 pm to
Monfils is the only guy who can hang with him on clay...IMHO
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:00 pm to
well we're one match away from an epic federer/nadal final. verdasco should give nadal some problems tonight but i expect nadal to win. the final should be interesting, nadal is getting better on hard courts but i still don't know if he is good enough to beat federer in the final of a slam. i think nadal in 4 tonight, then fed in 4 in the final
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 3:08 pm
Posted by kfizzle85
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 3:41 pm to
Could be a real "passing-the-torch" type of moment.
Posted by Roscoe
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 4:00 pm to
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nadal is getting better on hard courts but i still don't know if he is good enough to beat federer in the final of a slam


I don't really understand this. I'm a huge Federer fan and would like nothing more than to see him beat Nadal in the finals, but if Nadal can beat Federer on a faster grass court surface in the finals of a GRAND SLAM, I don't see why anyone would think he couldn't (or is not "good enough") do it on a slower hard surface.

To me, the biggest issue with Federer is the mental issue with facing Nadal. Federer typically starts off a little slow, while Nadal always comes blazing out the gates. If Nadal gets up on Federer, and considering Federer's recent struggles against Nadal, I could see that being too much for Federer to overcome.

While I am hopeful Roger can turn it around and come away with a victory, and while I think he has a very good shot to do so, I have no doubts that Nadal stands just as good, if not better, of a chance, of winning the championship as Federer.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 5:38 pm to
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I don't see why anyone would think he couldn't (or is not "good enough") do it on a slower hard surface.



I'll concede that Australia is slower than Wimbledon...but it's not by much. The grass has slowed down.

Plus, it has alot to do with his spin. The grass takes better to his spin than hard court...the ball kicks way up and jumps around more on the grass and it's harder to line up and smack.

I think he's good enough, but he'd need his best match and probably a B performance by Federer. Federer is smoking right now, though. It's gonna be a great final, if Nadal can get past Verdasco
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 5:40 pm to
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I don't really understand this. I'm a huge Federer fan and would like nothing more than to see him beat Nadal in the finals, but if Nadal can beat Federer on a faster grass court surface in the finals of a GRAND SLAM, I don't see why anyone would think he couldn't (or is not "good enough") do it on a slower hard surface.


it's fairly common knowledge that wimbledon has been playing more slowly than the hard courts for years. they switched the type of grass and the soil beneath it to slow down play and promote longer rallies several years ago. there's a reason that nadal and other clay court specialists have seen MUCH more success at wimbledon than at the us or aussie opens. djokovic actually came out either last year or the year before and called the surface green clay. it is a legitimate issue to doubt nadal's capabilities against fed on hard courts
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 5:46 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 5:56 pm to
nadal is already better than federer. fact
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:00 pm to
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nadal is already better than federer. fact



Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:04 pm to
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Plus, it has alot to do with his spin. The grass takes better to his spin than hard court...the ball kicks way up and jumps around more on the grass and it's harder to line up and smack.


this is a very good point. like i posted earlier there's a reason that nadal has made it to 3 straight wimbledon finals but has never made it to the final of either hard court slam
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:32 pm to
I don't understand this:
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Blunting Roddick's blistering serves, Federer broke twice in the first set. Adding to Roddick's frustration was a call that went against him as Federer served at 4-1.

A Federer shot was called out, but he successfully challenged. Chair umpire Enric Molina ruled that Roddick couldn't have gotten to the ball and gave the point to Federer. Roddick argued he stopped running when he heard the "out" call, and he had a running dialogue with Molina during several changeovers.


I didn't see it, but something seems off. Please explain.

LINK
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:38 pm to
roddick pulled up on a ball that was called out. federer challenged and it was a bad call. roddick wanted the point replayed, but they gave it to federer instead saying that roddick could not have reached the ball. roddick told the chair ump to "have some sack dude" and complained about it for the rest of the match even though fed won that service game pretty convincingly. that one point wouldn't have mattered.
This post was edited on 1/29/09 at 6:46 pm
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 6:46 pm to
that match had a ridiculous number of bad calls from the linesmen. i've never seen one match have so many calls overturned
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 7:04 pm to
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roddick pulled up on a ball that was called out. federer challenged and it was a bad call. roddick wanted the point replayed, but they gave it to federer instead saying that roddick could not have reached the ball.


Did you buy Roddick's story that he pulled up because he heard "out" called?

Wouldn't they normally just give the point to Fed because it was in?
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 1/29/09 at 7:10 pm to
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Did you buy Roddick's story that he pulled up because he heard "out" called?


no, i don't think he could have gotten to it. he was pretty close, but the angle was just too difficult for him to have actually hit a decent return. him telling the ump to "have some sack dude" and then patrick mcenroe apologizing to the tv audience for his language was pretty great though

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Wouldn't they normally just give the point to Fed because it was in?


yeah. i really don't know what roddick's deal was. i think he was just frustrated because he was down 5-2 in the first set when this happened
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