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re: Notre Dame recruiting has been insane lately

Posted on 7/16/21 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 6:46 pm to
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Boom
Mic Drop


LMAO!
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:24 pm to
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LMAO

He’s right you know
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:33 pm to
Nah but I don't think NIL will be this massive game changer that many believe it will be...for any school.

Could be wrong though.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 7:53 pm to
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Perhaps not what it use to be but they have a national following.
ND keeps that National fanbase because they make sure they schedule teams from all over. That’s why they’re independent.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:07 pm to
Not what it use to be since they made their ACC deal. 2022 schedule

Marshall? UNLV?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:08 pm to
Uhh, those are two schools in different parts of the country
This post was edited on 7/16/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 8:23 pm to
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Uhh, those are two schools in different parts of the country


Wow,brilliant observation.

Ya think they're traveling to either of those places?

Ya think both of those games will probably be their two lowest rated/attended games?

The beauty of their past schedules was they were almost always against relevant P5 schools (Army and Navy were tradition)and almost always played a return game.Cupcake one out home games werent something they were known for.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 1:50 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:36 pm to
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The beauty of their past schedules was they were almost always relevant P5 schools (Army and Navy were tradition)and almost always played a return game.Cupcake one out home games werent something they were known for.


I know you know those are games 11 and 12 on ND’s schedule… no one judges anyone on their cupcakes
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 9:39 pm to
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Ya think they're traveling to either of those places?

I bet they travel to Ohio state that year
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 10:32 pm to
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I know you know those are games 11 and 12 on ND’s schedule… no one judges anyone on their cupcakes


But ND never use to schedule 2 one off home games with G5 cupcakes in the same year.
Their old rivals like Michigan,Michigan State and Purdue are all missing.

BTW,many "traditional" powers are getting away from home cupcakes with FCS and G5's.

Don't think their ACC deal has worked out very well for em at least in FB and I doubt NBC is happy with the changes.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:04 pm to
There is a difference between being a national brand and being a national fan base. Most P5 are the former, no one is the latter anymore.

NYC has fans from all over. No one dominates that scene.

Chicago is basically the Big Ten’s version of what Atlanta is to the SEC.

Notre Dame doesn’t draw ratings unless they play an SEC team or they are in the playoffs. Look at the top ten most watched games in each of the last 10 seasons. Half of them have Alabama in them. You’ll find maybe 3 or 4 of those 50 games that Notre Dame took part in. Two of those were against Georgia and the other was getting that arse spanned by Alabama.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/16/21 at 11:33 pm to
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BTW,many "traditional" powers are getting away from home cupcakes with FCS and G5's.


?????

The way things currently are, I don’t see any reason a team wouldn’t play at least 2

Notre Dame is just doing what every team on their level is.

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Don't think their ACC deal has worked out very well for em at least in FB and I doubt NBC is happy with the changes.


They literally just went through an ACC schedule to make the CFP and had one of the games of the year when they beat Clemson.

It’s fair to knock them for what happens in the BCS or the CFP, but three times in the last decade they did what they had to do to get there against schedules that would stack up against any P5
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 12:25 am to
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????

The way things currently are, I don’t see any reason a team wouldn’t play at least 2

Notre Dame is just doing what every team on their level is.


What? Do you not realize the playoffs are expanding to 12 teams and you can sustain a regular season loss or 2? And ND doesn't have to worry about a conference championship game.Easiest path by far especially with their ACC deal.

Take a look at future OOC schedules of UGA,Bama,OSU and UF

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They literally just went through an ACC schedule to make the CFP and had one of the games of the year when they beat Clemson


LMAO!


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I'm talking a NORMAL fricking year dumbass and their obligation to play 4 ACC teams every along with dropping traditional rivals and their reg season schedule was a joke last year beyond Clemson


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three times in the last decade they did what they had to do to get there against schedules that would stack up against any P5


Their schedule was a joke in '18 and '20.

What in God's name are you talking about?

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 5:14 am to
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There is a difference between being a national brand and being a national fan base. Most P5 are the former, no one is the latter anymore.

NYC has fans from all over. No one dominates that scene.

Chicago is basically the Big Ten’s version of what Atlanta is to the SEC.

Notre Dame doesn’t draw ratings unless they play an SEC team or they are in the playoffs. Look at the top ten most watched games in each of the last 10 seasons. Half of them have Alabama in them. You’ll find maybe 3 or 4 of those 50 games that Notre Dame took part in. Two of those were against Georgia and the other was getting that arse spanned by Alabama.


This
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:12 am to
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LMAO!
is the ACC not a P5 conference to you?

Honestly, if the CFP goes from 4 to 12, I don’t see why a team would make it harder on themselves to get there. Would we really leave a team out from the top 12 (!!!) who didn’t really test themselves and put up a gaudy record? Undefeated P5 and G5 will always get in. P5 with one loss will get in 95% of the time, G5 with 1 loss 20% of the time. 2 loss P5 will get in 40% of the time

Where I see those teams that have 3 or 4 P5s on the schedule in the future, it’s probably not gonna stay that way… their coach will look at that schedule and freak, and some of those will get pushed down the line

College football doesn’t have a preseason, so those FCS and G5 games kind of have to serve as it.
This post was edited on 7/17/21 at 9:19 am
Posted by Yeahright
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 7/17/21 at 9:24 am to
They are the most OVER rated football team in the last 20+ years. You can live on your past accolades for only so long. Here's what you get in Notre Dame...... They start off ranked in the top 15 (almost every year) and they get off to a good start and then the bottom falls out because they can't handle the pressure. How many ND Catholic fans vote in the AP and UPI polls? Don't like the overrated Catholics. The only reason I kinda pull for them is because my niece goes there.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:32 am to
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every ND home game is on OTA national TV


Does not equate to every game being on national tv.

And being on NBC means frick all if everyone is watching ABC/FOX/CBS/ESPN/Fox Sports/SECN. Potential viewers mean frick ally. Actual viewers tell the real story.

Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:37 am to
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Not close to the same as a national OTA broadcast with their own timeslot


They rarely if ever are number one in that time slot. Hell they don’t even hit number 2 in that time slot. They are usually 4th in it.

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Who said this?NIL was mentioned because their exposure, popularity and they fact they still are successful program.I will say that the entire NIL/big money scenario is being a tad overblown.



I said tradition doesn’t matter to today’s recruits, because it doesn’t. Their tradition means frick all for NIL too. You do realize that South Bend is a small dump of a college town right? They don’t have the passion or pull of schools in the south, nor do they have the wide reach of schools that are in big cities.

Notre Dame is in a LTR with the ACC because they need what they ACC offers (games in recruiting hotbeds) more than what Notre Dame offers (which is… well…. Nothing really).
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:40 am to
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Uhh, those are two schools in different parts of the country


Lol I’m sure they have tons of followers in Huntington WV and we all know how much of recruiting hotbed it is.

And UNLV really? Lol
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 7/17/21 at 11:42 am to
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Notre Dame is just doing what every team on their level is.


Lol
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