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re: No charges filed against Jameis Winston

Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Crimson1st
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:11 pm to
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Interesting...


Indeed! Thanks for posting this and any more you come across. Sounds like a sad and unfortunate situation which we may never get a true handle on.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:13 pm to
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Woman's friend told investigators he and the woman referred to the night at Potbelly's as "the Purgatory."

hmm
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Indeed! Thanks for posting this and any more you come across. Sounds like a sad and unfortunate situation which we may never get a true handle on.




My first reaction is..

Just agreed to certain sex acts (BJ, anal, etc) and thought they were together and once Jameis wanted to drop her off..

It was only after the fact she realized she was taken advantage of.

Point being....She wanted to see her text messages first, she didnt want to call the police immediately, only her friend was told about "Being knocked on the head"

She gave an inaccurate description of a man who just dropped her off.

It sounds like a case of "risky sex" and she got played a long the way.

Again. Just my first reaction. Because she was not forthcoming with her friend and told her friend things that didnt align up with other stuff.
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:18 pm to
This is going to take a while to read
Posted by Rittdog
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:19 pm to
Again I ask...where the heck is SFP???
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:21 pm to
Sounds reasonable. I think there were possibly a couple of lines which were crossed in the process of that night's activities and the accuser felt in some ways she had been violated but was maybe afraid/confused at how to proceed. Probably went to a friend who was in less shock not being caught up in the moment of all that happened and the friend ran with it, nudging her to go to the police. I think things just snowballed from there and some of the "fog" the accuser was in happened from the whole whirlwind of events. Might not be exactly what happened but my gut reaction leads me to this.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:23 pm to
What's this SA? is it connected to the police report?
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:24 pm to
quote:

What's this SA? is it connected to the police report?



More detailed version. The TPD report was only until Feb/March.

This is the most recent.


Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25296 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:24 pm to
Random question

Are there no store security cameras around the area to identify the Winston and the Girl?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:26 pm to
alright, ill read it soon.
Posted by Rittdog
Yesterday, all my troubles seemed
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:29 pm to
The question that must be asked..

If you've just been raped (you're not intoxicated)

Why are you leaving with your rapist to go anywhere?

I understood the part about dropping her at another dorm.

Why not call your friend to come get you immediately?
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Random question Are there no store security cameras around the area to identify the Winston and the Girl?


According to the report there's several but they recycle tape every 30 days or so
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:41 pm to
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Are there no store security cameras around the area to identify the Winston and the Girl?


what would that prove?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:45 pm to
girl should go on oprah, tell the truth while strapped to a lie detector machine.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25296 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:46 pm to
Also, she was getting answers to some kind of school assignment at 440 in the morning. That seems strange.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25296 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

what would that prove?


Depends on what was in it. Maybe they hugged or something after he dropped her off, or maybe she slapped him. Who knows, I was just wondering.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:48 pm to
Im wondering if the friend thats described in this is M.K.?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

The question that must be asked..

If you've just been raped (you're not intoxicated)

Why are you leaving with your rapist to go anywhere?


Valid questions. I was wondering if there was something which might have had her out of her mind a bit and groggy, halfway coherent(enough to function) while simultaneously confused and traumatized. Maybe she was somewhat intoxicated, enough to not be "all there" or had been slipped a date rape pill, or even hit on the head and the combination of the events just left here kinda confounded on what to do, just knowing she wanted to get out of the place? I don't know what actually happened of course, but I am just running possible scenarios over in my mind of what might explain her actions and response.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
25296 posts
Posted on 12/6/13 at 1:50 pm to
Also, she told one friend that she thinks she was head on the head at a party and blacked out.

ETA: But nothing to that effect on any of the statements she gave police.

I'm assuming some of these things were the major holes in the story that wouldn't have held up in court.
This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 1:51 pm
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