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re: NFL Trade Deadline Discussion | Talib to Miami

Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:41 pm to
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I never understand how the nfl cap works
Is there some difference of when he’s traded?
Because the a Giants traded OBJ and they have dead money on their books for this year


Signing bonus. OBJ was paid the bonus by the Giants, so it counts as dead money against their cap if he was released or traded.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:42 pm to
Honestly Dalton would be an improvement. I think he can atleast look competent with pieces around him.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:46 pm to
Allbright: Dallas and Adams close
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:48 pm to
Don’t listen to Allbright

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On Jamal Adams and the #Cowboys: I’m told the #Jets are asking for more than a 1st rounder (as they should) and that a deal right is not close or imminent. It could happen, but there isn’t momentum for it right now. 72 minutes to go.
Posted by MF Doom
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:51 pm to
Why the frick would jets trade away one of their few bright spots jesus
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:57 pm to
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Pretty sure they would be off the hook for any dead money if they trade him to another team.

no i don't think that's right

they'd have to eat his signing bonus as dead money and the new team wouldn't have to deal with that cap hit or payment
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:59 pm to
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It’s truly amazing watching these bad teams giving away their only elite talents while they are on cheap rookie contracts.

If you’re not gonna try to keep a guy like Adams, what are you going to do with the picks you get?

yeah this makes negative sense. what are they trying to do? appease greg williams?
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:02 pm to
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Why the frick would jets trade away one of their few bright spots jesus


The same reason that the dolphins traded Tunsil and Minkah. At some point you come to grips with the reality of the situation and understand that the whole thing needs to be blown up and start over. You don't rebuild around a safety. Trade him for a first round pick and have a strategy going into the draft on the pieces you want to replace. Look at the 49ers, it wasn't long ago that they were among the worst teams in the league
Posted by jojothetireguy
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:02 pm to
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Why the frick would jets trade away one of their few bright spots jesus


He won't resign and they can get multiple high draft picks. If you wait until next year, you have less leverage than this year
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:05 pm to
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Look at the 49ers, it wasn't long ago that they were among the worst teams in the league


They didn’t get better by trading away their young core pieces.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:08 pm to
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At some point you come to grips with the reality of the situation and understand that the whole thing needs to be blown up and start over. You don't rebuild around a safety.

i don't get this. the assumption is that they'll either sign an impact safety or draft another one down the road with a draft pick they acquire?

why not keep the young asset under a cheap deal for 2 more years and see where rebuilding gets you to within that time frame?

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Look at the 49ers, it wasn't long ago that they were among the worst teams in the league

what major young piece did they deal to help that rebuild?
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:09 pm to
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On Jamal Adams and the #Cowboys: I’m told the #Jets are asking for more than a 1st rounder (as they should) and that a deal right is not close or imminent. It could happen, but there isn’t momentum for it right now. 72 minutes to go.



gonna take a 1st and two 2's IMO. our first round pick this year won't be that valuable(bottom half of the draft, I hope)

the sticking point will be the additional 2nd round pick. both sides will balk, nothing will happen

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:10 pm to
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He won't resign

that's a problem for a few years down the road and may not even be true at that point (if it's even true today)

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If you wait until next year, you have less leverage than this year

no. just no
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:11 pm to
and i will have wasted two hours of my day refreshing twitter
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:16 pm to
AJ Green to buffalo!
Posted by jojothetireguy
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
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that's a problem for a few years down the road and may not even be true at that point (if it's even true today)



Maybe and maybe not, but it seems more than likely if they are willing to part with a talented rookie on a rookie contract



no. just no[/quote]

How so? The longer a player sits on his current team under his current contract gives a different team less time to negotiate, therefore the current team would have less leverage in negotiations . You want to trade a high pick and get one year or two years out of a player. As the years tick off the contract so does some of the value. Especially if you can't commit the player to signing an extension.
Posted by hollywoodhead
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
watch the Eagles as players for Chris Harris Jr.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:19 pm to
Fake
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:20 pm to
Fake twitter strikes again
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112299 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:23 pm to
You somehow got fake twittered and Germans at the same time because someone else fell for it earlier
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