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re: NFL Referees Association has a message for the MSB
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:19 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:19 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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They are held accountable weekly, just not for public consumption. Graded. Critiqued. Criticized.
And pulled out of games, denied bowl or playoff games and fired, but yeah, no accountability.
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:21 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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They'll disagree but also not throw their brothers in stripes under the bus at the same time. I've heard Matt Austin and Steratore do it when it's warranted but they keep it professional.
I find that Terry McAulay tends to be the most critical.
The fan boys think that unless they say the crew is inept or cheating then they view that as "never disagreeing."
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:22 pm to 62zip
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I find that Terry McAulay tends to be the most critical.
They did seem to be better this year than previous
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:26 pm to 62zip
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And pulled out of games, denied bowl or playoff games and fired, but yeah, no accountability.
Didn't the POS responsible for the Saints/Rams debacle get rewarded the Super Bowl?
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:31 pm to JJ27
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Didn't the POS responsible for the Saints/Rams debacle get rewarded the Super Bowl?
What POS would that be?
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:34 pm to 62zip
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I find that Terry McAulay tends to be the most critical
Agreed. Forgot about him.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
The fact that they're addressing it at all is an acknowledgement of the incompetence.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:36 pm to 62zip
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There was a guy who used to broadcast games in BR and used to savage us all the time.
Finally our RCO contacted him and asked him to take the LHSAA rules test. He told our RCO to frick off.
What an a-hole.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:42 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Not to the public, even when we see with our own two eyes they’re bad. And words mean nothing, I believe you, they’re graded weekly, but those grades don’t mean shite if they aren’t actionable and bad officials are bad often.
But see, they are actionable and bad grades cost you postseason assignments and eventually your job.
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Like I’ve said the entire thread, mistakes happen, many of them irreversible, that’s part of sports. But the lack of accountability and having to answer for their mistakes is, to fans, whether right or wrong that’s the perception, is nauseating.
Again, there is plenty of accountability, the fanboys just don't want to acknowledge it.
Answer to the fans? Ummm yeah, OK. Maybe they could hold public floggings, Would that make the fanboys feel better?
They answer to their supervisor and that is far worse than anything any assclown fans could hope to come up with. There is also the accountability to one's crew.
Hell we get downgraded for correct calls that occurred outside our area. NCAA they get downgraded for balls that wind up on the ground during a ball relay.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:49 pm to 62zip
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bad grades cost you postseason assignments
I don’t care about this
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eventually your job
There you go
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here is plenty of accountability
I disagree. And even if it were true, it’s all behind closed doors and they’re backed publicly, which is bullshite
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Answer to the fans?
Yes, just like the players. It’s not the ref show. The actual players have to do it, the officials can too. It doesn’t even have to be them directly. It could just be through any kind of statement that at least acknowledges they need to be better
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They answer to their supervisor and that is far worse than anything any assclown fans could hope to come up with.
You sound like a huge pussy
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Hell we get downgraded for correct calls that occurred outside our area. NCAA they get downgraded for balls that wind up on the ground during a ball relay.
I could give a frick less about this. How about we don’t miss a million calls that lead to a million replays that lead to a 4 hour game.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:00 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I don’t care about this
You may not, but they certainly do.
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I disagree. And even if it were true, it’s all behind closed doors and they’re backed publicly, which is bullshite
You do know that they aren't wrong in every controversy that fans and or the media gins up, right? And yes, I have seen officials publicly thrown under the bus by college conferences and the NFL.
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Yes, just like the players. It’s not the ref show. The actual players have to do it, the officials can too. It doesn’t even have to be them directly. It could just be through any kind of statement that at least acknowledges they need to be better
See above.
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You sound like a huge pussy
frick you, cocksucker. You're the pussy officiating from the sofa and pontificating here like you have any clue what the frick you're talking about.
That being said, I'm not sure how you can make that conclusion because I stated that it sucks when you get a call from your supervisor.
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I could give a frick less about this. How about we don’t miss a million calls that lead to a million replays that lead to a 4 hour game.
You keep talking about accountability, I give you an example and you could give a frick less.
frick off troll.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:09 pm to 62zip
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You may not, but they certainly do.
That’s what you seemingly can’t understand. No one gives a shite. This ain’t the ref show
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You do know that they aren't wrong in every controversy that fans and or the media gins up, right?
Of course
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frick you, cocksucker. You're the pussy officiating from the sofa and pontificating here like you have any clue what the frick you're talking about.
Keep doing the lords work. The game is all about you
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You keep talking about accountability, I give you an example and you could give a frick less. frick off troll.
If you can’t see it, how can you know it’s happening? I’m definitely not taking their word for it when they’ve shown us time and time again they aren’t going to own up to their mistakes
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:29 pm to 62zip
Posted on 2/5/25 at 9:35 pm to JJ27
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Bill Vinovich
Yeah I'm familiar with him.
It wasn't his call.
He's the only one we hear about though because people know his name. People don't bitch about the two guys who missed the call because no one seems to know their names.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:20 pm to 62zip
He was the white hat. He has the power to call them together and get it right. Instead we got what we always get with refs, blind loyalty. Get the call correct, if your boy messed up make it right.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:39 pm to JJ27
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He was the white hat. He has the power to call them together and get it right. Instead we got what we always get with refs, blind loyalty. Get the call correct, if your boy messed up make it right.
You're right, he was the white hat, but that being said why exactly was he supposed to call them together? Because the crowd was booing? That happens all the time. You don't huddle because the crowd is booing.
What information was he going to get to "get it right"?
There were two people on that play who could have gotten it right. They didn't. There was nothing that the other five would have been able to offer to that conversation.
Bruce, you got anything? Nope I was with my linemen.
Patrick? Yeah, it was close, but I don't have anything.
Rusty, anything? Nope, I was with my key across the field.
How about you Todd? I was with my key, didn't see it.
Gary? Sean was pretty hot, but it was bang-bang.
How about you Tom? I was with my key, across the field.
OK, so he calls them together and that is what he gets.
At that point, how do you propose that he "make it right."
You do understand that when you are on the field, that if you are doing your job correctly, you have no idea what is going on in other areas of the field, right?
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:47 pm to 62zip
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You do understand that when you are on the field, that if you are doing your job correctly, you have no idea what is going on in other areas of the field, right?
Except video evidence shows him staring at the play, not at the QB.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 11:08 pm to JJ27
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Except video evidence shows him staring at the play, not at the QB.
Sure, once he felt he was able to he would release the QB and turn downfield and he did so but (and i just went and looked at it again) there is no way from where he is he is getting any sort of decent look at the contact or at the position of the ball.
Again though, let's say, for the sake of argument he does feel like he sees enough to want to pull the crew in. Where does it get them? See above for the way the conversation would go.
If it makes you feel any better though you can be pissed at him or whatever that he got a couple of Super Bowls after that.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:20 am to JJ27
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Bill Vinovich
Us NFL fans were fortunate enough to watch him ref 2 super bowls after rigging the saints/rams game.
In the two Super Bowls, he failed to see one specific team hold, hit the QB late (twice in the first SB), among other things.
Vinovich is confirmation that the league uses specific officials to alter games as they see fit. He did a great job in last year's game too making sure the league's most penalized offensive line wasn't called for a single penalty, despite many, many blatant holds and tackles, while calling it twice on the other team.
shite like that is how the NFL is obviously altering games. Sorry fan boys. Pointing this out isn't a direct insult to your integrity. There really isn't a need to white knight for them.
Posted on 2/6/25 at 4:11 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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Us NFL fans were fortunate enough to watch him ref 2 super bowls after rigging the saints/rams game.
How, specifically, did Bill Vinovich “rig” that game?
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Vinovich is confirmation that the league uses specific officials to alter games as they see fit. He did a great job in last year's game too making sure the league's most penalized offensive line wasn't called for a single penalty, despite many, many blatant holds and tackles, while calling it twice on the other team.
How, specifically, did Bill Vinovich make sure that “the league's most penalized offensive line wasn't called for a single penalty”/
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