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re: NFL Referees Association has a message for the MSB

Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by StansberryRules
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:06 pm to
The pro-Chiefs bias is mostly subconscious. They probably don't even realize they are doing it.
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:13 pm to
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That’s not what he said


Well in that case I suppose we will need a definition of middle aged, which he obviously threw out there to disparage.

What am I looking at in your photo? That tells us something about the fitness of the men in the photo? Do you have some point?
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:17 pm to
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The pro-Chiefs bias is mostly subconscious. They probably don't even realize they are doing it.


Interesting conjecture.

Let’s explore that a little bit, why would 121 individuals have a subconscious Chiefs bias?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:21 pm to
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What am I looking at in your photo? That tells us something about the fitness of the men in the photo?


Yes being in your 50-60s and overweight absolutely says something about your fitness



Dumbass
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:28 pm to
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Yes being in your 50-60s and overweight absolutely says something about your fitness


I’d say a better way to judge that would be through physical fitness testing, which the NFL does along with college conferences.

So in your learned opinion, what ages should we be seeing? You think a guy can just jump into the NFL?

Instead we get the opinion of some fatass who officiates from his sofa.

Did I touch some sort of nerve that compelled you to start name calling?

Go frick yourself pussy.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Serious question, you think you can just throw a 22 year old into an NFL game and let him call it?
So for a billion dollar company the only options are part time 50 year olds or 22 year ds

How about full time, fit, trained, full time employees 28-35 years old

And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in

Would it cost them more money? Yea

Would they still make billions? Yea

Would the product be better? Yea

There is zero logical rational defense of the bfl having a half arse part time officiating department

This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 3:42 pm
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:45 pm to
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So for a billion dollar company the only options are part time 50 year olds or 22 year ds How about full time, fit, trained, fit makes 28-35 years old
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for a billion dollar company the only options are part time 50 year olds or 22 year ds How about full time, fit, trained, fit makes 28-35 years old


So they should be run off at 35? One would be lucky to be qualified to work in the NFL by 35. Being ready to officiate in the NFL is a good 15-20 year process.

Why the fascination with “full-time”? They are already putting in full time and also have successful careers. What specifically is the advantage of being “full-time”?

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And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in


I don’t know what this means. Could you please elaborate?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 3:47 pm to
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What specifically is the advantage of being “full-time”?
And the fact you can’t figure that out is perfect

Do you think Mahomes or burrow would be as good at what they do if they were lawyers or teachers 9 months of the year?
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 3:48 pm
Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:00 pm to
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And the fact you can’t figure that out is perfect


Rather than be a smart arse, why not just answer the question?

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Do you think Mahomes or burrow would be as good at what they do if they were lawyers or teachers 9 months of the year?


Do you think football officials take 9 months off every year?

Also, explain to me, how it’s practical to be in the middle of a career and then just pause it for 8-10 years if you’re fortunate or a lot less if you’re less fortunate and then have to resume that career after such a long hiatus during peak earning years. Good luck attracting quality candidates that way.

Additionally, the NFL experimented with full-time officials for a few years and got away from it - if it’s such a good solution, why did they discontinue the program?

While we’re at it, can we discuss the other points that you ignored or no?

I still don’t understand this:

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And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:08 pm to
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Also, explain to me, how it’s practical to be in the middle of a career and then just pause it for 8-10 years if you’re fortunate or a lot less if you’re less fortunate and then have to resume that career after such a long hiatus during peak earning years. Good luck attracting quality candidates that way.
You fricking pay them 500k you imbecile

You make it a position that attracts the best of the best. Not a part time half arse operation that has 50 year olds following around the most elite athletes in the world
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 4:09 pm
Posted by stlslick
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:09 pm to
I thought the NFLRA congratulated the Chiefs for their 3peat.

Posted by 62zip
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:13 pm to
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You fricking pay them 500k you imbecile


What the frick is your problem a-hole, did you catch an NFL official fricking your wife in her arse or something?

Rather than be a dick, why not answer the questions?

500 would be nice, but NFW they are going to come up with that kind of money - you might realistically be looking at 200-300, which won’t cut it with the risk of being cut loose potentially in 3-4 years, but for the sake of argument let’s say they do - care to address the other stuff?

And again, WTF does And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in mean?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104766 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:14 pm to
There is zero logical argument to have with me

It’s impossible a fully functional human is against the nfl getting better officials by making it full time and paying more in order to get the top caliber people and training in the field
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104766 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:15 pm to
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And again, WTF does And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in mean?
If I have to explain this you aren’t worth speaking with
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:15 pm to
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62zip

Don't waste your time with him.

It's like arguing with a brick wall.
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:19 pm to
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There is zero logical argument to have with me


I’m not arguing, I’m trying to ask you for a legitimate solution to this “problem” and rather than answer you choose to be a condescending prick.

There are ways to get a better product but making it full time would decrease the number of people interested in the job and paying more is not going to draw a “higher caliber” of people. It’s not about the money.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:21 pm to
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Don't waste your time with him. It's like arguing with a brick wall.


I would normally agree with you, but this is in the 1% of time that pride is right. This guys arguments are fricking retarded
Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6700 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:22 pm to
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If I have to explain this you aren’t worth speaking with


It’s an easy question but rather than answer you are determined to be a condescending prick, which is about what I’ve come to expect from you. If you want to take a little break from that, it would be nice if you could help those of us nowhere near your intellectual plane understand what you’re trying to say.

Rotate whom? Rotate them how?

Try for once, to not be.a dickhead and answer a simple question.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:23 pm to
He's got a point but the his solutions are completely unrealistic.

And I say this as like 62, we're both officials.


Posted by 62zip
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Member since Aug 2005
6700 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 4:23 pm to
Maybe you can help then Mingo.

What does this mean?

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And then you rotate them that way biases subject to humans don’t set in
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