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re: NFL coaches and executives rank Aaron Rodgers as the best QB in the NFL

Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:33 pm to
Brady clearly has the 2 best in moss and gronk, but I think saying they're all even is pretty fair.

None of them have consistently had anything other than what they've made players into. And all three have been great at making so so players very very good.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:33 pm to
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Brady seems to get all the credit while Belichick doesn’t get as much as he should.



It's one thing for a QB to be able to play for all of those years but another to play as well as he has during those years. Belichick is absolutely ruthless in terms of his cutting his players if their production slips and that should be indicative of the level of production from Brady.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:34 pm to
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It's one thing for a QB to be able to play for all of those years but another to play as well as he has during those years. Belichick is absolutely ruthless in terms of his cutting his players if their production slips and that should be indicative of the level of production from Brady.


This is actually a great take.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:38 pm to
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Belichick is absolutely ruthless in terms of his cutting his players if their production slips and that should be indicative of the level of production from Brady.
Hoodie found out early on that he could pretty much give Tom little to work with and he could be productive as long as he provided him with a decent defense.

Although the defenses haven't been so great of late.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:40 pm to
Rodgers, Brady, Brees is the ranking in terms of talent of those three.

Brady, Brees, Rodgers in terms of supporting talent.

Brady will have the best resume of any quarterback when he retires, but at no point in his career can he ever say he was the most talented active quarterback in the NFL.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:41 pm to
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Although the defenses haven't been so great of late.

last 5 years scoring defense rankings

7th
8th
1st
5th
7th


You are a clown show
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:44 pm to
I do total defense rankings, thanks.

Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:44 pm to
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Hoodie found out early on that he could pretty much give Tom little to work with and he could be productive as long as he provided him with a decent defense.



It's a delicate balance with salary cap considerations but they seem to find gems in all of their draft picks. James White and Sony Michel come to mind immediately as guys who probably wouldn't make much contributions to other teams but putting on that Patriot helmet makes them perform at a high level.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:44 pm to
He’s forgetting the defense of latest won them the SB.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:44 pm to
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TT9



my goodness you are getting the pipe in this thread
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:45 pm to
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I do total defense rankings, thanks.

Like I said, you are a clown show

If you followed football you would realize scoring is all that matters

And if you knew Bellichek you would know his entire defensive philosophy is built on this. Bend don’t break is his motto
This post was edited on 7/23/19 at 10:46 pm
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
And you only wanna work angles that fit your narrative, frick off.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:46 pm to
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And you only wanna work angles that fit your narrative, frick off.

Using scoring defense to judge a defense is an angle


Honk honk, clown show
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:48 pm to
Which matter more pts or yards? Fewest yards doesn’t win games. The 2018 Patriots D was 7th in pts and TOs forced per drive. If you do want to look at yards, they were 8th fewest yards per drive.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:48 pm to
Post total defense stats. That's the whole picture.

You don't wanna do that though do ya?
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:49 pm to
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And if you knew Bellichek you would know his entire defensive philosophy is built on this. Bend don’t break is his motto



So can we just put it out there that Belichick is the greatest HC/GM of all-time?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:51 pm to
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Post total defense stats. That's the whole picture.

As it relates to a QB and helping him win?

I rpromise you they are worried about the points their respective defense gives up
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:54 pm to
He knows he’s wrong. It’s the only thing he has going for him in this argument. The defense was top 8 in scoring D and fewest 1st downs/TDs, forced TOs, and yards allowed per drive.
Posted by theducks
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Nelson and Jennings without Rodgers were not good.


This is a dumb point to make because neither guy was in his prime after leaving GB. Nelson literally retired the year after his time in GB.
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 7/23/19 at 11:01 pm to
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This is a dumb point to make because neither guy was in his prime after leaving GB. Nelson literally retired the year after his time in GB.



I think Cobb will be a good litmus test for production without Football Jesus considering he is 28.
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