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re: New Netflix documentary: “Who Killed The Montreal Expos?”

Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:43 pm to
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How are blue jays surviving?


Tronna is the only Canadian city that could hold an American sports franchise. That's why the Raptors are still there, and the Bills flirted with moving for years.

The reality is, Canadian cities aren't large, and Montreal is an entirely different country than Toronto, let alone, say, DC or New York.

I'm a longtime NHL fan, and the Canadian cities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to keeping talent or even generating enough revenue to make a go of it. I could be wrong, but I think Canada has the worst economy in the G7, and it's not particularly close.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:09 pm to
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How are blue jays surviving?



Their share of the MLB TV market is all of Canada and Buffalo New York.

They are owned by Rogers communications, the national broadcasting company. They are at no disadvantage.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:10 pm to
Eli Wallach was an actor

It was Berman’s nickname for Tim
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194852 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:46 pm to
I know who Eli Wallach was old character actor The good the bad and the ugly
you know when people are just naming off players that used to play for teams it's kind of a goof and I mentioned Eli Wallach after Tim Wallach as a goof
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2187 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:59 pm to
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The reality is, Canadian cities aren't large, and Montreal is an entirely different country than Toronto, let alone, say, DC or New York. I'm a longtime NHL fan, and the Canadian cities are at a significant disadvantage when it comes to keeping talent or even generating enough revenue to make a go of it. I could be wrong, but I think Canada has the worst economy in the G7, and it's not particularly close



The Montreal metro is 4 million, the Toronto metro is 6 and the TV market is 9

Rodgers basically gets free programming along with a team that prints money so it's an incredible deal for them. The current Rodgers that owns them is also a baseball fan so that helps.

The NHL is a different story the Canadian TV deal keeps the league solvent yet the leagues cap hurts them due to the tax issue especially since the majority of them are the high earning teams. 5/7 teams made the playoffs as well


Quebec is a high tax bullshite province that doesn't help it's cause in these matters however. The Habs can get away with it because they're owned by the Molson Coors guy and are the most historic franchise in the league
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
5669 posts
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:38 pm to
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The majority of downtown Montreal and everything from Montreal west to Ontario is English speaking.

The divide happens when you go east.

Yeah, this pretty much nails it.

Montreal is awesome
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:42 pm to
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I think Canada has the worst economy in the G7, and it's not particularly close.

I would argue Italy.
Posted by hobotiger
Asbury Park, NJ
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 4:30 am to
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Rusty Staub


“Le Grand Orange”…. Born in New Orleans and played for Jesuit High School


My dad says that Rusty was the greatest player he ever played against, by a mile.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/1/25 at 11:43 am to
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There needs to be a baseball team in the nations capital. But it is a shame another team had to die to make it so.


It wouldn't have happened this way if the DC area supported the 1st team they had. But of course that was before the grifters invaded the nation's capitol and it became the richest area in the country.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27184 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 3:35 pm to
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t wouldn't have happened this way if the DC area supported the 1st team they had. But of course that was before the grifters invaded the nation's capitol and it became the richest area in the country.


What are you rambling on about? The Senators weren't supported in the same way the Expos weren't supported, because no one wants to go to games to watch a shitty team year after year. Also, the original Senators' owner was an explicit racist:

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Asked nearly two decades later why he moved the team, Griffith replied, "I'll tell you why we came to Minnesota, it was when I found out you only had 15,000 blacks here. Black people don't go to ball games, but they'll fill up a rassling ring and put up such a chant it'll scare you to death. It's unbelievable. We came here because you've got good, hard-working, white people here."
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 10/1/25 at 8:11 pm to
I remember watching an Expos game on cable when I was a kid. Moises Alou thought about stretching a hit into a double but stopped about half way and went to go back to first. His cleat got caught in that shitty arse turf and it looked like his leg just broke apart into pieces.

Me and my dad were about to puke.. so was the 2nd base ump

EDIT: all this time I've blamed the injury on Olympic Stadium but apparently it was the crap turf at Busch Stadium

This post was edited on 10/1/25 at 8:18 pm
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