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NBA players who are amongst the all time leaders in both points and assists
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:36 pm
Bold players indicate active players who will be able to move up the ranks
NBA players in the top 100 of all time points and top 100 of all time assists (regular season)
Bob Cousy (98th in points, 17th in assists)
Grant Hill (95th in points, 96th in assists)
Russell Westbrook (93rd in points, 35th in assists)
Steve Nash (86th in points, 3rd in assists)
Jason Kidd (83rd in points, 2nd in assists)
Magic Johnson (79th in points, 5th in assists)
Lenny Wilkens (77th in points, 14th in assists)
Calvin Murphy (74th in points, 89th in assists)
Dave Bing (71st in points, 51st in assists)
Isiah Thomas (64th in points, 7th in assists)
Jason Terry (62nd in points, 49th in assists)
Jamal Crawford (61st in points, 94th in assists)
Scottie Pippen (60th in points, 32nd in assists)
Tony Parker (59th in points, 19th in assists)
Reggie Theus (57th in points, 28th in assists)
Gail Goodrich (56th in points, 70th in assists)
John Stockton (49th in points, 1st in assists)
Joe Johnson (46th in points, 65th in assists)
Hal Greer (39th in points, 82nd in assists)
Larry Bird (38th in points, 41st in assists)
Gary Payton (37th in points, 8th in assists)
Dwyane Wade (36th in points, 50th in assists)
Clyde Drexler (35th in points, 33rd in assists)
Allen Iverson (30th in points, 45th in assists)
Ray Allen (29th in points, 90th in assists)
Vince Carter (27th in points, 81st in assists)
Jerry West (25th in points, 31st in assists)
Rick Barry (23rd in points, 66th in assists)
Alex English (21st in points, 91st in assists)
Kevin Garnett (20th in points, 48th in assists)
John Havlicek (19th in points, 34th in assists)
Paul Pierce (18th in points, 72nd in assists)
Tim Duncan (17th in points, 100th in assists)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Julius Erving (8th in points, 59th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Wilt Chamberlain (5th in points, 76th in assists)
Michael Jordan (4th in points, 44th in assists)
Kobe Bryant (3rd in points, 30th in assists)
Karl Malone (2nd in points, 55th in assists)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1st in points, 42nd in assists)
Breakdown: 41 total players - 9 forwards (Pippen, Hill, Bird, English, Garnett, Pierce, Duncan, Lebron, Malone), 2 Centers (Wilt and Kareem), 30 guards
NBA players in the top 50 of all time points and top 50 of all time assists (regular season)
John Stockton (49th in points, 1st in assists)
Larry Bird (38th in points, 41st in assists)
Gary Payton (37th in points, 8th in assists)
Dwyane Wade (36th in points, 50th in assists)
Clyde Drexler (35th in points, 33rd in assists)
Allen Iverson (30th in points, 45th in assists)
Jerry West (25th in points, 31st in assists)
Kevin Garnett (20th in points, 48th in assists)
John Havlicek (19th in points, 34th in assists)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Michael Jordan (4th in points, 44th in assists)
Kobe Bryant (3rd in points, 30th in assists)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1st in points, 42nd in assists)
Breakdown: 14 total players - 3 forwards (Bird, Garnett, Lebron), 1 center, 10 guards
NBA players in the top 25 of all time points and top 25 of all time assists (regular season)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Observations and take aways:
1) I was surprised to see KG and Kareem to be top 50 in both. I don't think either get much credit for their passing abilities. It is incredibly impressive to even make the top 100 for a forward/center, and even more so to make top 50.
2) Really puts into perspective how special Lebron is as both a playmaker and a scorer. He will be the first player to be in the top ten in both, as a forward no less. Oscar is the only other to make top 25 for both. Furthermore, Lebron will in all likelihood finish top 5 in both. Points is a lock, he is 381 points away from 5th and will reach that next season barring injury. He is 1,933 assists away from 5th. That is doable. If he averages 5.9 assists per game (his individual season career low in his rookie year), for 4 full 82 game seasons, then he will just get to 5th. It's hard to predict how many games he will play and when he will start to decline but I think it is more reasonable than not he will play the equivalent of 4 more seasons at 6 assists per game. Once he is fifth, he is only 194 away from 3rd in assists. For those wondering, 2nd place in assists is virtually unreachable for him. The only other thing that could hinder him is Chris Paul, who is currently 500 assists ahead of him, so he would have to also make up those 500 on Paul and that might not be doable. Alas, he has a legitimate shot at being top 3 in point and top 3 in assists. This is mind-blowing considering no one else is even close to something like that.
NBA players in the top 100 of all time points and top 100 of all time assists (regular season)
Bob Cousy (98th in points, 17th in assists)
Grant Hill (95th in points, 96th in assists)
Russell Westbrook (93rd in points, 35th in assists)
Steve Nash (86th in points, 3rd in assists)
Jason Kidd (83rd in points, 2nd in assists)
Magic Johnson (79th in points, 5th in assists)
Lenny Wilkens (77th in points, 14th in assists)
Calvin Murphy (74th in points, 89th in assists)
Dave Bing (71st in points, 51st in assists)
Isiah Thomas (64th in points, 7th in assists)
Jason Terry (62nd in points, 49th in assists)
Jamal Crawford (61st in points, 94th in assists)
Scottie Pippen (60th in points, 32nd in assists)
Tony Parker (59th in points, 19th in assists)
Reggie Theus (57th in points, 28th in assists)
Gail Goodrich (56th in points, 70th in assists)
John Stockton (49th in points, 1st in assists)
Joe Johnson (46th in points, 65th in assists)
Hal Greer (39th in points, 82nd in assists)
Larry Bird (38th in points, 41st in assists)
Gary Payton (37th in points, 8th in assists)
Dwyane Wade (36th in points, 50th in assists)
Clyde Drexler (35th in points, 33rd in assists)
Allen Iverson (30th in points, 45th in assists)
Ray Allen (29th in points, 90th in assists)
Vince Carter (27th in points, 81st in assists)
Jerry West (25th in points, 31st in assists)
Rick Barry (23rd in points, 66th in assists)
Alex English (21st in points, 91st in assists)
Kevin Garnett (20th in points, 48th in assists)
John Havlicek (19th in points, 34th in assists)
Paul Pierce (18th in points, 72nd in assists)
Tim Duncan (17th in points, 100th in assists)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Julius Erving (8th in points, 59th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Wilt Chamberlain (5th in points, 76th in assists)
Michael Jordan (4th in points, 44th in assists)
Kobe Bryant (3rd in points, 30th in assists)
Karl Malone (2nd in points, 55th in assists)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1st in points, 42nd in assists)
Breakdown: 41 total players - 9 forwards (Pippen, Hill, Bird, English, Garnett, Pierce, Duncan, Lebron, Malone), 2 Centers (Wilt and Kareem), 30 guards
NBA players in the top 50 of all time points and top 50 of all time assists (regular season)
John Stockton (49th in points, 1st in assists)
Larry Bird (38th in points, 41st in assists)
Gary Payton (37th in points, 8th in assists)
Dwyane Wade (36th in points, 50th in assists)
Clyde Drexler (35th in points, 33rd in assists)
Allen Iverson (30th in points, 45th in assists)
Jerry West (25th in points, 31st in assists)
Kevin Garnett (20th in points, 48th in assists)
John Havlicek (19th in points, 34th in assists)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Michael Jordan (4th in points, 44th in assists)
Kobe Bryant (3rd in points, 30th in assists)
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1st in points, 42nd in assists)
Breakdown: 14 total players - 3 forwards (Bird, Garnett, Lebron), 1 center, 10 guards
NBA players in the top 25 of all time points and top 25 of all time assists (regular season)
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
Observations and take aways:
1) I was surprised to see KG and Kareem to be top 50 in both. I don't think either get much credit for their passing abilities. It is incredibly impressive to even make the top 100 for a forward/center, and even more so to make top 50.
2) Really puts into perspective how special Lebron is as both a playmaker and a scorer. He will be the first player to be in the top ten in both, as a forward no less. Oscar is the only other to make top 25 for both. Furthermore, Lebron will in all likelihood finish top 5 in both. Points is a lock, he is 381 points away from 5th and will reach that next season barring injury. He is 1,933 assists away from 5th. That is doable. If he averages 5.9 assists per game (his individual season career low in his rookie year), for 4 full 82 game seasons, then he will just get to 5th. It's hard to predict how many games he will play and when he will start to decline but I think it is more reasonable than not he will play the equivalent of 4 more seasons at 6 assists per game. Once he is fifth, he is only 194 away from 3rd in assists. For those wondering, 2nd place in assists is virtually unreachable for him. The only other thing that could hinder him is Chris Paul, who is currently 500 assists ahead of him, so he would have to also make up those 500 on Paul and that might not be doable. Alas, he has a legitimate shot at being top 3 in point and top 3 in assists. This is mind-blowing considering no one else is even close to something like that.
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm
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Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm to Tigerfan56
be interested to see how boom turns this in to a james harden thread 
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:38 pm to Tigerfan56
I will update it with playoff rankings later as well. No one may care or find it as interesting as me 
but at least I will have it compiled for myself if nothing else.
but at least I will have it compiled for myself if nothing else.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:40 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
Lebron James (7th in points, 11th in assists)
And they have 4 Championships between them.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:40 pm to Tigerfan56
Most surprising part of that list.
Kobe is top 30 in assists all time.
Kobe is top 30 in assists all time.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:41 pm to Tigerfan56
LeBron James is the greatest basketball player to ever play this game, it’s not arguable not up for debate he’s the Prince of pro basketball, excels at so many different things and can be as effective a shooting forward as he is a point forward. Game. Set. Match. Come at me bro.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:42 pm to htran90
quote:
Kobe is top 30 in assists all time
At first it can come as a surprise. But when you think about how long Kobe played at such a high level, and usually with the ball in his hands, it makes sense.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:42 pm to Winston Cup
quote:
be interested to see how boom turns this in to a james harden thread
Thanks for turning it into a boom thread.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:43 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
And they have 4 Championships between them.
Has nothing to do with the thread. Please take your insecurity elsewhere.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:43 pm to htran90
quote:
Most surprising part of that list.
Kobe is top 30 in assists all time.
This is probably from a Jordan slurper
Ironic.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:45 pm to Tigerfan56
I'm a Magic Johnson homer, but it's always sad to me his career was cut short by HIV. He'd easily be second in assists because he was still playing at a high level when he retired. Points wise, he would be top fifty at a bare minimum.
One thing that list drives home is the importance of consistency and being injury free. All the top guys are also amazingly durable and consistent players.
One thing that list drives home is the importance of consistency and being injury free. All the top guys are also amazingly durable and consistent players.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:52 pm to Rep520
quote:
'm a Magic Johnson homer, but it's always sad to me his career was cut short by HIV. He'd easily be second in assists because he was still playing at a high level when he retired. Points wise, he would be top fifty at a bare minimum.
Magic is 1,948 points away from 50th (23.76 PPG for an 82 game season), so at a minimum 50th is probably correct. 1,950 assists away from 2nd, which assuming 3 more seasons of play from him and he probably gets there. I don’t really know enough about the specifics of his career to guess how many more elite years he had in his tank, if not for the HIV.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:58 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:So underrated.
Jason Terry (62nd in points, 49th in assists)
He deserves more respect from the masses.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 3:59 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
Oscar Robertson (14th in points, 6th in assists)
GOAT.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:00 pm to ReauxlTide222
Jason Terry and Joe Johnson both were big surprises to me. Part of their inclusion is due to longevity but there is something to be said about a long career of being a productive player.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:00 pm to sugar71
quote:
This is probably from a Jordan slurper Ironic.
Assists per game:
Kobe 4.69 - #145 all time
Jordan 5.25 - #101 all time
Magic 11.19 - #1 all time
LeBron 7.18 - #26 all time
This post was edited on 4/26/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:01 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
Kobe Bryant (3rd in points, 30th in assists)
quote:
Michael Jordan (4th in points, 44th in assists)
Kobe > Jordan
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:07 pm to Tigerfan56
quote:
Magic is 1,948 points away from 50th (23.76 PPG for an 82 game season), so at a minimum 50th is probably correct. 1,950 assists away from 2nd, which assuming 3 more seasons of play from him and he probably gets there. I don’t really know enough about the specifics of his career to guess how many more elite years he had in his tank, if not for the HIV.
He retired at 31, and had averaged 19 and 12 the year before, which was basically right in line with the remainder of his career.
He had the short comeback 4 years later where he was still decent despite the huge rust. I'd think he had another 2 or 3 seasons of 18-19 and 12 before a decline set in.
He also played in the ASG after a half year of retirement and won MVP and looked good on the Dream team. I'm not sure if he would have passed Stockton just due to longevity, but he was still the best PG in the league when he retired, and probably would have been for a season or two more.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:10 pm to Tigerfan56
In 2 seasons it's likely that LeBron will be 3rd all time in points and 7th all time in assists.
That's damn impressive.
That's damn impressive.
Posted on 4/26/18 at 4:16 pm to Winston Cup
You just did.
Idiot.
Idiot.
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