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re: MLB Trade Deadline Thread (8/1: Rangers acquire Lucroy and Jeffress)

Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:05 am to
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:05 am to
Sounds like nobody knows exactly what the frick is going on, or who is going where.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:06 am to
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The time is now for the Cubs and Chapman is an elite back end reliever. If the other guys are your #15 and #20 prospects they can be replaced in short order in the draft next year. Chapman is a game changer in October



Exactly, I don't know if the Cub fans are acting like this because they haven't been in this situation but like four times in the last 100 years or what.

Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:07 am to
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Sounds like nobody knows exactly what the frick is going on, or who is going where.
Rosenthal: If completed, Chapman for Torres, Warren and two others.
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:08 am to
I don't know who else is going over, but I don't care all that much about Torres being shipped off. We are talking about a 19 year old High-A shortstop in an organization with infield depth at the major league level. He is potential at this point.
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:09 am to
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It's okay to be somewhat skeptical on the trade, but don't act like you're getting trade raped for giving up a guy who is in Class-A ball and is in a positional log jam.



Huh? I didn't say we're getting trade raped. And I don't think anyone is saying that. I'm saying it's good for both teams. I responded to someone saying this is lopsided in favor of the Cubs.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:09 am to
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Sounds like nobody knows exactly what the frick is going on, or who is going where.



Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:10 am to
Sherman: Neither Soler nor Baez in deal.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:10 am to
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bwallcubfan


My mistake.

I'm likely just getting antsy as frick because the Rangers are fricking doing anything.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:11 am to
As an Astros fan I know how they feel, you get sold on your system being the lifeblood when you suck dick for a while and you become hesitant to give up prospects once you're a contender.

The thing I always tell myself (and Cub fans should do the same) is that the front office that built all that prospect depth isn't going anywhere. The Cubs will continue to draft and develop well and backfill whatever prospects they give up.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:12 am to
Just to reiterate:
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Cubs president Theo Epstein is making it clear that rehabbing slugger Kyle Schwarber is not available for trade, per Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:12 am to
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The thing I always tell myself (and Cub fans should do the same) is that the front office that built all that prospect depth isn't going anywhere. The Cubs will continue to draft and develop well and backfill whatever prospects they give up.


Exactly, as a Ranger fan I can tell you that it works. We've made plenty of deadline trades regarding highly touted prospects and we're fine, farm system wise.
Posted by bwallcubfan
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:13 am to
Serious question...Can you even trade an injured player?
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:14 am to
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Serious question...Can you even trade an injured player?
Yes.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:14 am to
As long as the team getting him is okay with the physical I think you can. I remember Wheeler almost getting dealt last year when I'm pretty sure he was still hurt. As long as the team trading the injured player is up front with where he's at rehab wise and what the injury was I think that's what's important.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:15 am
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:14 am to
Yes, you just have to understand they would fail the physical
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:16 am to
I'd take an injured Schwarber over some of the shitty healthy guys
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:17 am to
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Sherman: Neither Soler nor Baez in deal.


He meant Candelario not Baez. Obviously Baez isn't in the deal either.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:17 am to
The price for Chapman will always be cheap [EDIT: I meant "steep" here] in this deal. But if the Cubs give up Torres (which is great value for NYY) and give up Warren (not really a big deal to me) and two fringe prospects at logjammed positions (think $20 analogy), this trade is kind of okay for the Cubs.

As long as the Cubs keep Soler, Schwarber, Happ, Cease, Jimenez off the table in this deal then it's a good trade. Cubs have the glut of position prospects.
This post was edited on 7/25/16 at 9:46 am
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:17 am to
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He meant Candelario not Baez. Obviously Baez isn't in the deal either.

Yeah, read that after I submitted. Thanks.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/25/16 at 9:20 am to
And the yanks apparently chose Torres as the centerpiece over Eloy.
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