re: Mike McQueary letter to OSU recruits post "tat gate" last year

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includes responsibility for the actions of its staff members and for the actions of any other individual
or organization engaged in .

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I know every one is outraged justifiably over what went on there, but they were not violating NCAA rules, nothing Sandusky did was "activities promoting the athletics interests of the institution" just like a player or coach arrested for DUI or players a fight at a bar or homicide are not violating NCAA rules. They are violating the law and should be punished accordingly. They could also be banned for participating in NCAA activities, but it was not a violation of NCAA rules.

People are trying to find some justifcation for NCAA involvement because they are outraged and apparently punishing the people that actually committed the crimes and or covered it up is not good enough.

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.2 ACTIVE MEMBERSHIP Eligibility Requirements

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Not meeting eligiblilty requirements and or violating the honor code is not violating NCAA regulations.

The 10th BYLAW is ETHICAL CONDUCT.


Get real.

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understand your point. But a crime was committed by an athletic coach. It was covered up by the head athletic coach and athletic director to protect an athletic program. The crime happened at an athletic facility

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While true, that is still not A) a violation of NCAA rules and B) is really not that important. What is important is what happened and the proper authorities, LE, have take precedent.

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I don't think it's too big of a reach to think the NCAA could have a gray area in their rule books that allow them to get involved

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Just PR to satisfy an angry mob.

As far as violations go
Getting free tats >>>>>>>>>>>>>> child molestation

What's the difference between punishing USC, where all players and coaches(Pete Carroll gone, Reggie Bush gone, O.J. Mayo gone) have left and the "angry mob" wanted USC punished for turning it's head to pretty well known violations.


Penn State has been proven(more so than USC ever was) that it had knowledge of ethics violations that violate NCAA bylaws, why shouldn't they be punished?

I don't get how you say there is no way they can/should be. They certainly CAN be. And in many people's opinion, SHOULD be.

If a member institution were covering up for 20 years repeated DUIs, murders, rapes, etc. by a memeber of the coaching staff and he was allowed to continue to do those actions then YES, the NCAA should step in and bring sanctions down.

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As far as violations go
Getting free tats >>>>>>>>>>>>>> child molestation

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The free tats are improper payments to players. Like or agree with it or not, that's the type of rules violations the NCAA is established to created and enforce. Its not against the law to pay for someone's tats, but it could be an unfair recruiting advantage. NCAA monitors recruiting violations. The Police take care of things like child molestation.

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If you don't think that the NCAA could charge Penn State with ethics violations, you're delusional.

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They probably will. Its just for PR purposes and not really a good idea. Creates a precedent that is not good. The people that committed the crimes have been or will be punished. They will go to jail, have lost their jobs and will likely be sued along with the school. Why is that not enough punishment? What does sanctioning the FB program accomplish other than satisfying the mob?

I would fricking hate to be a PSU alum or student right now.

How bad would it suck to forever have your school known as Pedophilia State University?

Every employer, woman, friend, stranger, etc. will immediately have a grimace on their face, chuckle, or judgmental thought at the mere mention of where you were educated.

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Why is that not enough punishment? What does sanctioning the FB program accomplish other than satisfying the mob?

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It will make damn well sure that people understand you can't cover things up and allow someone in your program to keep performing unethical actions.

Why doesn't the NCAA just strip players of their amateur status when they are found to be breaking NCAA bylaws even WITHOUT the knowledge of the member institution? TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T KEEP BREAKING THE RULES.