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re: Michigan State MLB Max Bullough suspended for Rose Bowl

Posted on 12/26/13 at 8:50 am to
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 8:50 am to
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Props to Dantonio. Does ANYONE think meyer would have the ballsack to do that?


So I am assuming that no one here knows that Marcus Hall did not a play a minute of the B1G Championship game.

I won't even say that Meyer is tough at disciplining players, but to see SEC fans come here and preach about the morals of coaching is comical.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 8:51 am to
That's right I forgot about that. It could be something else then.
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
15320 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 8:51 am to
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Meyer would have swept it under the rug & suspended him from the first 2 minutes of each quarter & called it discipline.


Or even better, left it up to his players to vote on?

Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:04 am to
It is rather comical when you think about the situations this year involving Manziel and Jeremy Hill. At face value those situations were much, much worse yet the total combined penalty for both players was a first half suspension vs a virtual high school team. Hill was only punished "internally", whatever that means.

I know it's all heresay (and some homerism) but I don't think there's a better RB in the country than Carlos Hyde. If he plays in the first 3 games he would have been close to 2,000 yds rushing and a leading Heisman candidate. A pretty stiff penalty if you ask me.

And although Elfein is a solid backup at OG, not having Hall vs MSU did affect our offense. He could have played but Meyer sat him out. Not sure how either of these situations is unethical.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202645 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:11 am to
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I know it's all heresay (and some homerism) but I don't think there's a better RB in the country than Carlos Hyde. If he plays in the first 3 games he would have been close to 2,000 yds rushing and a leading Heisman candidate


Lets look at the crappy defenses he played against???? Oh ok...
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:18 am to
In terms of total defense, MSU #1, Wiscy #6 and Iowa #7.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:51 am to
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At face value those situations were much, much worse yet the total combined penalty for both players was a first half suspension vs a virtual high school team


Hill didn't play a single snap in the first game, against a ranked team (at the time).
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:03 am to
This board is so Urbsessed, its pretty cute. I'd be afraid too though.
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
16121 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:05 am to
bro you tryin to hoop at the lifetime on Dublin today.
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
16121 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:06 am to
and Ohio State

28-24 in '98

34-24 in '13

:lol: MSU OSU's daddy 1st and last year of BCS



Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
6719 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:10 am to
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cjared036

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If it's anything less than NCAA violation/cheated on a test/high level misdemeanor then I think he should play.


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Alabama Fan


Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4249 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:11 am to
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It is rather comical when you think about the situations this year involving Manziel and Jeremy Hill. At face value those situations were much, much worse yet the total combined penalty for both players was a first half suspension vs a virtual high school


Let's be real here. Signing a few autographs to make a quick buck is not a much much worse situation than assault
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:13 am to
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Hill didn't play a single snap in the first game, against a ranked team (at the time).


Wasn't he cleared to play though but just didn't get in the game? I have a real problem with someone convicted of a sex crime, then violates probation but somehow avoids suspension or being kicked off the team. "Let the team vote"...ok
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:16 am to
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Let's be real here. Signing a few autographs to make a quick buck is not a much much worse situation than assault

Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:19 am to
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Wasn't he cleared to play though but just didn't get in the game? I have a real problem with someone convicted of a sex crime, then violates probation but somehow avoids suspension or being kicked off the team. "Let the team vote"...ok


Yes, he did travel and dress.

I was surprised Les handled it the way he did myself...this is the same guy who kicked off the team his 5* starting QB and his Heisman Trophy finalist DB.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112278 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:20 am to
You want to talk about being misinformed and then talk like les Miles actually let the players decide whether to let him back or not?


Miles already made that decision to let him come back, it was just a gesture to bring it to the team and let them decide if they would accept him back. This happens all the time.
Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:26 am to
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Wasn't he cleared to play though but just didn't get in the game?

He was reinstated to the team. The internal discipline was him not playing in the season opener.
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sex crime

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"Let the team vote"

I really don't understand why people make this out to be so ridiculous. It's obvious that Miles made the decision to bring him back on the team. The "team vote" was just a way for him to make the players feel involved and feel like they also have a voice. Anybody that thinks Miles didn't 100% make the call to bring him back is fooling themselves. And I don't think he was ever hiding behind a team vote either.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:27 am to
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Let's be real here. Signing a few autographs to make a quick buck is not a much much worse situation than assault


From a legal standpoint, I agree 100%. However, Hyde was never charged yet still served a 3 game suspension. In terms of NCAA violations, what Manziel did was much worse. He took $$$ and got away with it scott-free.

The tats for autographs scandal with tOSU was wrong and the players involved were rightly punished for it. It effectively ended Pryor's tOSU career, Posey was suspended 8 games and Herron and Adams also had multi-game suspensions their senior years. They definitely deserved it but what sucks is that there is no consistency with the NCAA.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11366 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:32 am to
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He took $$$ and got away


I thought this was never proven. Didn't the NCAA "drop" the investigation
Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:34 am to
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I thought this was never proven. Didn't the NCAA "drop" the investigation

Doesn't change the fact that
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He took $$$ and got away
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