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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:35 am to
Was Hyde arrested?

Do you have evidence John Football took money?

Yes I'm aware of the picture of him signing autographs. You can find pictures of hundreds of college players signing autographs however.

What deserves a harsher punishment in your opinion?

Allegedly signing autographs for a couple thousand dollars or being arrested and suspected of assaulting a woman?
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:37 am
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:38 am to
Rumors are that Manziel's dad effectively blackmailed the NCAA...saying that he would put the full court press on them for benefiting from his son's stardom thru memorabilia and other items. Apparently daddy has some deep pockets and power.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:40 am to
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Rumors are that Manziel's dad effectively blackmailed the NCAA


And "rumors" are that Hyde threw a haymaker at the broad in the club. Neither have ever been proven.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:42 am to
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Allegedly signing autographs for a couple thousand dollars or being arrested and suspected of assaulting a woman?


Taking thousands of dollars for autographs is a blatant NCAA violation which should result in an extended suspension. Being a suspect in a case is not an NCAA violation. However, if convicted you obviously must pay legal consequences and lose your scholarship.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:45 am to
man them Manziels' will be secretly running America in a few more years.

Anyway back on topic.

31 Arrests under Meyer at UF:
Here's some notables of those arrests.
Chris Rainey: arrested on a charge of aggravated stalking, a felony
Solomon Patton: charged with misdemeanor possession of alcohol by someone under 21.
Matt Elam: another charge of possession of alcohol by someone under 21.
Frankie Hammond Jr.: DUI
Gary Brown: misdemeanor battery after allegedly slapping a woman and scratching someone else at a party.
Carlos Dunlap: DUI
Janoris Jenkins: resisting arrest after a fight by a Gainesville night club.
Marquis Hannah: felony burglary and misdemeanor battery, in the same incident.
Carl Johnson: misdemeanor violation of a sexual restraining order.
Riley Cooper: misdemeanor of resisting an officer and failure to comply with police and fire department.
Cam Newton: felony burglary, larceny, obstruction of justice for allegedly stealing a laptop.
Jacques Rickerson: misdemeanor possession of marijuana

8 arrests so far at OSU:
Carlos Hyde: named as a person of interest in an assault on a female.
Bradley Roby: arrested after a bar fight.
Marcus Baugh: underage possession of alcohol and possession of a fake I.D.
Tim Gardner: arrested for obstructing official police business.
Jake Stoneburner, Jack Mewhort: arrested for urinating in public
Storm Klein: domestic battery and assault
Bri’Onte Dunn drug charges
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:52 am
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:45 am to
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And "rumors" are that Hyde threw a haymaker at the broad in the club. Neither have ever been proven.


True. And for that Hyde paid the consequences (3 game suspension) even though no charges were filed.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:49 am to
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Carlos Hyde: named as a person of interest in an assault on a female.



Never charged, still suspended for a quarter of the season.

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Bradley Roby: arrested after a bar fight.



Suspended for 1 or 2 games I forget

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Marcus Baugh: underage possession of alcohol and possession of a fake I.D.


Ok

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Tim Gardner: arrested for obstructing official police business.


Kicked off of the team due to this. Actually never step foot on campus, he was an incoming freshmen.

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Jake Stoneburner, Jack Mewhort: arrested for urinating in public



Think they were both suspended.

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Storm Klein: domestic battery and assault


Never charged, missed half a season due to this.

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Bri’Onte Dunn drug charges


He was never charged and cleared of any involvement.


This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 10:51 am
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2014 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:04 am to
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You want to talk about being misinformed and then talk like les Miles actually let the players decide whether to let him back or not? Miles already made that decision to let him come back, it was just a gesture to bring it to the team and let them decide if they would accept him back. This happens all the time.


Do you LSU fans have a link to back this up? First Miles made the decision for him to come back, then the team voted as a gesture to bring to the team. TIA.

How did the thread go from MSU to OSU so fast....
Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:18 am to
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Do you LSU fans have a link to back this up? First Miles made the decision for him to come back, then the team voted as a gesture to bring to the team. TIA.

Common sense? He doesn't bring Hill in for a team vote if he wasn't fully on board with bringing him back. Pretty simple concept.
Posted by pkloa
Member since Jan 2011
2263 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:20 am to
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How did the thread go from MSU to OSU so fast....


Too many Bucknuts on the MSB
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:21 am to
Turn the tides...if the exact same situation happened at tOSU (mimicking Hill's), what would you think?
Posted by MenloDawg
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:22 am to
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And "rumors" are that Hyde threw a haymaker at the broad in the club. Neither have ever been proven.


The video I saw and the subsequent suspension were proof enough for me?

Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:25 am to
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Turn the tides...if the exact same situation happened at tOSU (mimicking Hill's), what would you think?

I would think that Meyer was the one who made the call to reinstate him. I really don't get how you guys think the head coach just 100% left the decision up to the team instead of having his opinion formed beforehand, and then letting the team reinforce his opinion.

Keep in mind I haven't said one word about Meyer and they way he runs his program.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:33 am to
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I would think that Meyer was the one who made the call to reinstate him. I really don't get how you guys think the head coach just 100% left the decision up to the team instead of having his opinion formed beforehand, and then letting the team reinforce his opinion.


I would think it's the AD's call on the minimum punishment and the HC can stiffen it at his discretion. If Meyer did the same as Miles in this situation, the rant would explode. In Meyer's short stint at tOSU he has been pretty forceful IMO.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:37 am to
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to see SEC fans come here and preach about the morals of coaching is comical.


Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:38 am to
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I would think it's the AD's call on the minimum punishment and the HC can stiffen it at his discretion.

If you think the AD is the one making the calls on minimum punishment then what makes you say
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In Meyer's short stint at tOSU he has been pretty forceful IMO
Sounds like he has no choice in the matter
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:40 am to
So it's the leadership at LSU that sucks?
Posted by Silky Johnston
DFW
Member since May 2013
998 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:42 am to
Well I don't think you'll find too many fans of Alleva on this site
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2014 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:50 am to
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I really don't get how you guys think the head coach just 100% left the decision up to the team instead of having his opinion formed beforehand, and then letting the team reinforce his opinion. 


It's not that some think the coach left the decision up to the team, it's that the LSU fans are trying to perpetrate a lie when in reality to anyone with a keen eye would see what is going on. Les is a grown arse man, why the frick does he need to have his team reaffirm anything? Stand by your convection and decision as a coach to make your own choice absolved from a team vote. I don't know what Les reason was behind what he did but if you believe what he did is true, then I question his leadership abilities to lead troubled players and punish them justly. If any coach did that, I would have the same regards to that situation.

If you have kids think about it like this. If your middle child of three gets caught stealing in a department store and you punish the child by taking the difference from their allowance, would you ask your other kids before you punish their sibiling? If so, what does that say about you as a parent.

Les is smart enough to know how this would appear to the public save those LSU fans that will spin it another way.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 12/26/13 at 11:53 am to
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How did the thread go from MSU to OSU so fast....
look at all the Urbsessed posters on the MSB. First reply is about urban. They can't help it.

ETA: Replies 2,3 and 6 are all about Urban. Unprovoked. Its astounding how Urbsessed this board is. Has nothing to do with OSU people.
This post was edited on 12/26/13 at 11:56 am
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