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re: Michael Jordan decided to do this documentary on the day of the Cavs’ championship parade
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:43 pm to David Ricky
Posted on 4/20/20 at 3:43 pm to David Ricky
Thing I remember most was his not celebrating w his teammates. No congrats or ataboy he just did his own thing.....
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:04 pm to Buckeye06
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No; a 10 part documentary about a team who won 6 titles in 8 years has just started. MJ happens to be the best player on that team, but there was a good bit about other stuff in the documentary.
Don't be naive. This could've been done years ago. This documentary was produced only because MJ signed off on it. They needed his permission, and thus far, it's a puff piece for him.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 4:13 pm to Goldrush25
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thus far, it's a puff piece for him.
I'm loving the doc for the nostalgia, but it really has been a Jordan highlight package in a lot of ways. The worst thing so far has been his overcompetitiveness, but it isn't played as bad.
I mean for example, it struck me they didn't mention the conclusion of the Celtics series in 85-86. I looked, and the Bulls got swept at home with MJ shooting poorly on his way to only 19 points.
That doesn't diminish that going for 49 and 63 in Boston Garden is a big deal. It does sort of show that the doc really isn't dwelling on his struggles so far.
I would be interested in what struggling in an elimination game meant to MJ in his development as a young guy. Did it bring him back to earth after Games 1 and 2? Did it get him mad he had to play with Dave Corzine as his #2 scoring option? Did it fire him up for next year?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:30 pm to Rep520
By all accounts it does get into a lot of Jordan's demons with frankness.
Bill Simmons got a pre-viewing of the entirety of the TLD doc series, and he said on his podcast last week that he was very surprised at how apparently nothing was off limits, and that there are several situations where Jordan isn't painted in the greatest light.
He's been openly critical of how most athlete documentaries where the subject is involved are basically infomercials for that person, but he said that wasn't totally the case with TLD.
Bill Simmons got a pre-viewing of the entirety of the TLD doc series, and he said on his podcast last week that he was very surprised at how apparently nothing was off limits, and that there are several situations where Jordan isn't painted in the greatest light.
He's been openly critical of how most athlete documentaries where the subject is involved are basically infomercials for that person, but he said that wasn't totally the case with TLD.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:33 pm to Buckeye06
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Lebron will have his own documentary soon, but it won't be about winning 6 titles or being 6X MVP of the finals
Should be about why he choked all those times, dude's in his 17th season should have AT LEAST 5 rings by now
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:36 pm to Rep520
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I would be interested in what struggling in an elimination game meant to MJ in his development as a young guy. Did it bring him back to earth after Games 1 and 2? Did it get him mad he had to play with Dave Corzine as his #2 scoring option? Did it fire him up for next year?
Maybe they're priming us for when the Bulls got swept AGAIN by the Celtics the very next year (despite that the 87 Celts were noticeably hurting) and the impact that had on how Reinsdorf/Krause constructed the Bulls team for the future, just preceded the 87 Draft. I'm sure getting swept by the greatest single-season team of all-time made an impression on 23-year-old Jordan and it translated to his statistically absurd 1987 season but FOR THE TEAM, meh.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:37 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Should be about why he choked all those times
Let’s use some stats to compare the quality of Finals opponents, shall we?
Lebron 100% shite the bed against Dallas in 2011. Which other series should he have won iyo?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:39 pm to Feral
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He's been openly critical of how most athlete documentaries where the subject is involved are basically infomercials for that person, but he said that wasn't totally the case with TLD.
I wonder how much of the gambling we get to see.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:42 pm to David Ricky
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David Ricky
You are a fricking clown
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:47 pm to Wild Thang
Have you already moved on from WCA so quickly? 
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:48 pm to David Ricky
Maybe 2010 but he quit on his team in the conference semis despite his Cavs were the no. 1 seed for the entire playoffs. 2014, the Heat are 2x defending champs with Wade and Bosh flanking him and they achieve a 1-1 split going to Miami for 2 games and he chokes in game 3. 2015, his Cavs are leading 2-1 in a 2-2-1-1-1 format and 2 games in his house and he flat-out chokes in game 4 and gets outscored by Iggy then loses a duel to Steph in game 5 and proceeds to play inefficient basketball the rest of the way. Obviously his meltdown in game 1 2018 goes without saying. 
Posted on 4/20/20 at 8:57 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Did you even look at the graphic?
Lebron played out of his mind against the Warriors in 2015 with Matthew Dellavedova as his second best player
51/8/8 on 60% shooting
You are insane lol
Lebron played out of his mind against the Warriors in 2015 with Matthew Dellavedova as his second best player
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Obviously his meltdown in game 1 2018 goes without saying.
51/8/8 on 60% shooting
You are insane lol
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:00 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:This has convinced me that your anti lebron shtick is a troll. No one serious is blaming Lebron for that game
Obviously his meltdown in game 1 2018 goes without saying.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:01 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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2015
You think LeBron choked by averaging 36, 13 and 9 in a Finals series where the Cavs also started Dellavadova, JR, Thompson and Mozgov and they still extended the W's to six?
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2014
You didn't watch that series if you think the Heat were better than the Spurs.
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his meltdown in game 1 2018
The game where he scored 51 points?
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:06 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Obviously his meltdown in game 1 2018 goes without saying.
That 51 point on 59% from the floor meltdown
Lebron is lucky to be a top 5 player tbh with those numbers.
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:08 pm to David Ricky
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Lebron played out of his mind against the Warriors in 2015 with Matthew Dellavedova as his second best player
For 3 games, then the Warriors placed Iggy on him and he proceeded to play inefficient basketball
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51/8/8 on 60% shooting You are insane lol
Until his meltdown after the JR screwup, try again
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:09 pm to David Ricky
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You are insane lol
It really is crazy how far some try to go to belittle him because of something he does off the court that hurts their feelings.
IMO Jordan> Lebron at the moment but you really lose all credibility to the discussion when you think Lebron isn't a top 5 player.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:14 pm to Rep520
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You think LeBron choked by averaging 36, 13 and 9 in a Finals series where the Cavs also started Dellavadova, JR, Thompson and Mozgov and they still extended the W's to six?
Those Cavs had the highest payroll in the league, did they not?
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You didn't watch that series if you think the Heat were better than the Spurs.
They were the 2x defending champs with LeBron on their team
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:15 pm to rockiee
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IMO Jordan> Lebron at the moment but you really lose all credibility to the discussion when you think Lebron isn't a top 5 player.
He isn't I can make a good case he's outside of that
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:21 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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He isn't I can make a good case he's outside of that
No you can't when placing the some standards on the other people in front of him. You give more of a feels over reals argument. You have already done that on the previous page by trying to spin a great game into a meltdown.
Jordan and Lebron are the clear 1 and 2
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 9:22 pm
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