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re: Marlins to retire Jose Fernandez's jersey after tonight

Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:22 pm to
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:22 pm to
Sevilla and Man City retired numbers of less successful players who died at a very young age.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:21 am to
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with essentially a split race between Fernandez and a bunch of other pitchers (Scherzer, Hendricks, Lester, Bumgarner, Kershaw, etc.)


I dont see how you can say the above and then say

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people can't accept that he had an amazing season/


He didnt have an "amazing season". A top 5 pitching talent in the league has a season that is top 5 in half the league and you are saying that is amazing? I dont see that. He had a damn good year. Dont think its a Cy Young season. Im talking baseball, nothing more.
Posted by 1ranter1
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:33 am to
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you are saying that is amazing? I dont see that.


The last time a qualifying pitcher had a K/9 over 12.5 was Randy Johnson in 2001.

Go find a list of pitchers with 180 IP, a sub 3 ERA, and a K/9 over 12. It will be an absolutely elite list.

Actually after a quick glance on baseball reference it looks like Randy Johnson and Pedro are the only other two pitchers to ever do it. But yeah not amazing
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 8:34 am
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:33 am to
I'd be inclined to award it to either Lester or Hendricks, but I am totally partial as a Cubs fan. I honestly would not have a problem with them giving Fernandez a posthumous Cy Young award. It's not like he has a 7.35 ERA, I feel he would have been in the conversation anyway had he not passed away. He had a very good season.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 8:51 am to
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1ranter1
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The last time a qualifying pitcher had a K/9 over 12.5 was Randy Johnson in 2001.

Go find a list of pitchers with 180 IP, a sub 3 ERA, and a K/9 over 12. It will be an absolutely elite list.

Actually after a quick glance on baseball reference it looks like Randy Johnson and Pedro are the only other two pitchers to ever do it. But yeah not amazing



Thats at least a decent argument.


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BCMCubs



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I honestly would not have a problem with them giving Fernandez a posthumous Cy Young award.


Me either. This doesnt effect me at all. Just discussing.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:59 am to
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The last time a qualifying pitcher had a K/9 over 12.5 was Randy Johnson in 2001.

Go find a list of pitchers with 180 IP, a sub 3 ERA, and a K/9 over 12. It will be an absolutely elite list.

Actually after a quick glance on baseball reference it looks like Randy Johnson and Pedro are the only other two pitchers to ever do it. But yeah not amazing


Jesus Christ, I didn't know he had that great of a season.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:14 am to
He is the most valuable pitcher in baseball in 2016 according to Fangraphs WAR. (Syndergaard was close behind and may have equaled/passed him last night).
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 9/28/16 at 10:43 am to
Basically everything but the ERA was in line. Only behind kershaw and syndergarrd in fip, only behind kershaw and syndergarrd in WAR, only behind kershaw in xfip, only behind kershaw and syndergarrd in fip-, highest k%, second only to kershaw in k-bb%

He's probably going to win the award now and it's not like he wasn't already one of the main competitors for it
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 10:44 am
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