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re: Manny Machado Is Such A Whiner
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:15 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:15 pm to lsufball19
No one. He's creating his own arguments to knock down.
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Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:15 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
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Again, what does being a PROFESSIONAL have to do with a fastball being able to kill someone?
I already told you. We are talking about major league baseball not kids. Kids aren't throwing at each other.
Mayyyyybe when you get to high end travel ball it might happen but very very rarely.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:16 pm to TheXman
quote:you dont think a pitcher intentionally throwing a baseball at someones head should be considered assault? really?
Yeah you guys are trying to say it is the same thing and pitcher should be charged with assault which is insane.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:16 pm to TheXman
quote:Nothing you have said has answered the question.
I already told you.
You said fastballs can't kill. You were provided an example of a fastball killing someone. Then you asked for a professional example. Like that makes any difference.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:18 pm to TheXman
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I already told you. We are talking about major league baseball not kids. Kids aren't throwing at each other.
that's not the point. The point is a fastball to the head can kill you or cause serious permanent damage. Yet pitchers throw at player's heads and do not face adequate consequences as a result. Offerman was arrested and never played again after he charged the mound with a bat. He was also sued for 4 million dollars after ending a catcher's career who was hit in the back of the head with his bat. What Machado is saying is that if a pitcher intentionally throws at your head, which is not part of the game, they should be punished accordingly, but they're not
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:18 pm to WestCoastAg
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you dont think a pitcher intentionally throwing a baseball at someones head should be considered assault? really?
Who is intentionally throwing at anyone's head? Yeah obviously Barnes was throwing at Machado and the ball ended up around his head but you don't know that he was trying to buzz it up there.
That is different than a guy going out to the mound like Offerman did and smashing a guy in the head. His intention was very clear.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:18 pm to TheXman
quote:he intentionally threw at machado, the ball ended up at his head. thats assault
Yeah obviously Barnes was throwing at Machado and the ball ended up around his head but you don't know that he was trying to buzz it up there.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:19 pm to TheXman
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That is different than a guy going out to the mound like Offerman did and smashing a guy in the head.
literally no one here is arguing that it's the same thing. it might be time for you to argue a different point
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:20 pm to WestCoastAg
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he intentionally threw at machado, the ball ended up at his head. thats assault
So next time a guy is trying to pitch inside and the ball slips and it runs up and in into someone's face we're charging the pitcher with assault? Are you insane?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:20 pm to TheXman
quote:When it's clearly in retaliation? Why the hell not?
So next time a guy is trying to pitch inside and the ball slips and it runs up and in into someone's face we're charging the pitcher with assault?
Just look at Giancarlo if you need actual evidence of what a fastball can do to someone's face.
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:20 pm to TheXman
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So next time a guy is trying to pitch inside and the ball slips and it runs up and in into someone's face we're charging the pitcher with assault? Are you insane?
there wouldn't be intent in that situation. assault is an intentional act
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:21 pm to lsufball19
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literally no one here is arguing that it's the same thing. it might be time for you to argue a different point
Everyone is saying it should result in the same consequences. Hit in head = assault is what I'm hearing.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:21 pm to lsufball19
quote:This is basically undeniable.
you know what a fake tough guy is? a pitcher throwing at someone's head
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:21 pm to TheXman
quote:so you agree with machados entire point that pitchers are given absolute free reign to attack a batter all because of the subjectivity of intent? awesome
So next time a guy is trying to pitch inside and the ball slips and it runs up and in into someone's face we're charging the pitcher with assault?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:22 pm to TheXman
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Everyone is saying it should result in the same consequences
everyone is saying that pitchers should face the same sort of consequences as hitters who retaliate for being thrown at. not that there aren't varying degrees of misconduct
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:22 pm to lsufball19
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there wouldn't be intent in that situation. assault is an intentional act
So now we're just going to go on a completely arbitrary definition of 'intent'?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:22 pm to TheXman
quote:intentionally throwing at a batter which ends up hitting his head should be considered assault
Everyone is saying it should result in the same consequences
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:23 pm to TheXman
quote:you keep on making machados point
So now we're just going to go on a completely arbitrary definition of 'intent'?
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:23 pm to WestCoastAg
He doesn't even realize it.
Posted on 5/3/17 at 2:23 pm to TheXman
quote:We do it all the time
So now we're just going to go on a completely arbitrary definition of 'intent'?
If I accidentally hit you with my car, the courts deem it a vehicle accident and I get a ticket
If I intentionally ram your car, I am charged with a completely different felony
I bet that is amazing to you we can determine intent
This post was edited on 5/3/17 at 2:24 pm
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