re: Luka has been neutralized to a nothing player

lol look at you and your types behavior. Feminine, wackos behaving like little girls.

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Lebron has played with more all stars than any multi time champion NBA great by far. That is a fact, you couldn’t accept that so you came up with this silly “they wouldn’t have won without him” nonsense which is unprovable and in many cases factually false

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1. I know he's played with more. I never disagreed with that. 2. I didn't say "they wouldn't have won without him" I said "Outside of Dewayne Wade, they hadn't won without him." That is a fact. Unless somehow I missed a NBA finals that Bosh led the Raptors to, or Love the Grizzlies, Kyrie and the bottom feeder Cavs, and as a Pels fan I sure as hell must be out of the loop if I missed AD leading the Pels to a title. So what are the many cases that are actually false? Who are all these all-stars that won titles without Lebron?

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Then you use his longevity as an excuse but also as a point of advantage whenever it suits you so you deal in double standards in this regard as well.

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His longevity is not an excuse, it's a basic fact. Lebron is playing with a guy like Luka because he's playing 20+ years. You can take all these other all-time great players like Kobe, Magic, Wilt, Bird (who played with 7 different all stars in his 13 year career), etc. didn't play with as many for the simple fact that they were on the couch by years 13-15. That in itself limits the number of all-stars they played with. Not why that is so hard to wrap your brain around.

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Lebron had played with 21 All-Stars by his 15th season, 3x as many as the players you compared him to, so your assumption you posited as fact is false.

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Larry Bird played with 7 all stars in 13 seasons.
Magic played with 6 through 13 seasons.
Lebron played with 6 through 13 seasons (including all world all stars like Zydrunas Illgauskas and Mo Williams).

Just saw your edit...

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Lebron had played with 21 All-Stars by his 15th season

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I'm talking about actually being all stars at the same time. Who the hell cares if LeBron played with a guy that was an all star 6 years before or after Lebron played with them. Do you really think LeBron playing with a 37 year old Shaq, 8 years removed from his prime is playing with an All-Star?

I didn't move the goal posts, that was how I was interpreting it all along. Like I said, not sure why I would consider Lebron playing with a guy that wasn't an all star when Lebron actually played with him as "playing with an all star".

So by your logic Dennis Rodman was no longer a highly talented player in Chicago because he hadn’t made an All Star team for 4-5 year prior to joining the team? You’re being ridiculous and playing semantics because it plays into your bias and double standard comparisons.

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He was still an All Star because it’s on his resume. Is Lebron not a champion anymore because he hasn’t won anything in the last few seasons? I could argue that counting the same player as multiples is also a misrepresentation.

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Madking

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