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re: LHSAA’s definition of “Select” taken to court - playoff picture blurry

Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:31 pm to
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There needs to be two separate classifications of schools, one where schools can ONLY take in kids from a certain geographic region and one where schools can take kids from anywhere


That's basically what they did that these 7 schools filed suit against.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
4382 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:42 pm to
If they truly did that there would be almost nobody on the non select side.

Most public schools have lots of kids from out of zone for a number of different reasons.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42368 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:46 pm to
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If they truly did that there would be almost nobody on the non select side.

Most public schools have lots of kids from out of zone for a number of different reasons


They based it on percentages or on open enrollment/schools of choice scenarios. As a result, all of Lafayette parish except Southside, were select last season. Southside did not yet have any school of choice designation, but they will soon, I believe.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 7:23 pm to
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What schools are in the feeder system for Catholic High and where are they located?


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Somehow Catholic High benefits from a rule that applies to everyone.


You could try to answer the question.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36611 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 7:39 pm to
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There has to be a better way to stop play transfers for sports. Public schools are getting destroyed for recruiting but private schools, for some reason, take players from the hood and place their paying students on the bench. All for a stupid trophy.


Or the public schools could you know…just get better. Get better cosching, get better facilities, better everything…you know compete

Look nobody is leaving barbe baseball if they are the starter to go play at Catholic. Nobody is leaving west Monroe baseball team for the same reasons.

You put a winner on the field, provide great coaching, great facilities, great support, good academics and a safe environment that allows them to thrive and they aren’t going to leave.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:05 pm to
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You have ignored me this entire thread

Lived in riverbend, went to st. Aloysius, not eligible freshman year

Nola- lived near Highland, went to st. Jude, not eligible freshman year

I could go on and on. I can’t even remember a single freshman ever getting eligible unless they went to 8th grade Catholic

There was no feeder school anything from 2003-2006, and I know there wasn’t any available either until at least 2012


Here is the explanation, copied from page 1.

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In the past, there was the Same School System exception to residential eligibility. If a kid matriculates from a feeder school within the same school system, then they are granted full eligibility.


So (until this year) any kid coming from a Catholic feeder school was eligible as a freshman (dude says it on page 1). My point is that Catholic has dozens of feeder schools.

Schools like Parkview dont (didnt) have feeder schools that have "same school system exception" like Catholic. That is a fact. So (until this year), to be eligible as a freshman at Parkview, you had to be there in 8th grade or live in district.

So (until this year) you could be eligible as a freshman at Catholic if you came from ANY of the Catholic feeder schools with this exception.



As far as your personal situation, ask the other guy who posted what I copied. Maybe he can explain it to you.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:15 pm to
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So (until this year) any kid coming from a Catholic feeder school was eligible as a freshman (dude says it on page 1). My point is that Catholic has dozens of feeder schools.

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So (until this year) you could be eligible as a freshman at Catholic if you came from ANY of the Catholic feeder schools with this exception.

And I am telling you that is 100% incorrect

I went to a feeder school, so did a shite ton of other classmates of mine. All ineligible freshman year

The feeder school thing did not exist. Period.
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 8:18 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:18 pm to
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And I am telling you that is 100% incorrect

I went to a feeder school, so did a shite ton of other classmates of mine. All ineligible freshman year


Dude, Im parroting what the guy says on page 1. Maybe ask him.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:20 pm to
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Dude, Im parroting what the guy says on page 1. Maybe ask him.
Im telling you he is wrong for 2002-2013 guranteed. From 2014-2022 I can’t say, but I would be shocked if it is correct

There was no advantage Catholic had over park view or any other school due to “feeder schools”

Parkview had the far bigger advantage due to most of their freshman being eligible due to being in school earlier, and Catholic only had around 25 in 8th grade
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 8:21 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:23 pm to
Copied from page 1.

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Did he go to St. Theresa? In the past, there was the Same School System exception to residential eligibility. If a kid matriculates from a feeder school within the same school system, then they are granted full eligibility. That rule applied to all schools, though, not just Catholic schools. But that exception was removed last January.

So under that exception, a kid from Gonzales that went to a Catholic elementary school under the Diocese of Baton Rouge could matriculate to CHS/SJA/St. Michael and get full eligibility.

But, as I said, that exception no longer applies.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:24 pm to
Ok I know he said that. I would like him to show me when that became a rule. It certainly wasn’t for my time at Catholic, and my time helping coach at Catholic. Would have helped a TON for us

The smaller sports at Catholic would get screwed because of this
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:30 pm to
You are mistaken.

Rule 1.13.4

Changed in January. Dude was right about that. I got some other info.

I can post the email sent to St. Michaels parents explaining the change in eligibility.

Key word is change, because this is new. Which means the feeder school.stuff was in effect till this previous January.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 8:33 pm to
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Key word is change, because this is new. Which means the feeder school.stuff was in effect till this previous January.
I can promise this feeder thing was also only a recent change and in effect for a few years, because it 100% did not exist for the 10 plus years I played/coached at Catholic

ETA: I looked it up. The “feeder school exemption appears to have been implemented in 2014 when the Legislature repealed a law regarding attendance eligibility

So, feeder school provision existed from 2014-2022. Antonio can confirm
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 8:56 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:04 pm to
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The “feeder school exemption appears to have been implemented in 2014 when the Legislature repealed a law regarding attendance eligibility


Now can you understand my logic and gripe? Glad they changed it, but gut tells me that'll be temporary.

The "feeder school exemption" benefited schools with....wait for it.....feeder schools. Which are Catholic schools.

Parkviews "feeder school" is Parkview.
Cathloics "feeder schools" consits of dozens of schools, many outside the parish.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
4382 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:08 pm to
I’d like to see that email please
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:08 pm to
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The "feeder school exemption" benefited schools with....wait for it.....feeder schools. Which are Catholic schools.
For all of 8 years…..And how much was it benefiting Catholic over a private school that has its own k-8?

So, would you say Catholic is at a disadvantage when the feeder exemption doesn’t exist considering that means almost every freshman is ineligible while schools like parkview have almost every freshman eligible?

I truly don’t care about this one way or the other. I see both sides about freshman eligibility
This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 9:10 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:13 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/22/23 at 9:19 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9560 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:21 pm to
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how much was it benefiting Catholic over a private school that has its own k-8?


How much was it benefitting Catholic to have this exemption and be eligible to receive kids from all over?

The only reason Catholic has (had) a district at all was for non-catholic school kids. All Catholic kids from the diocese are (were) eligible immediately through this exemption.

Massive advantage.

Id say alot bro. Good grief.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108243 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:23 pm to
Parkview can take kids from all over too. Just get them in their full size 8th grade, and voila
Posted by Joehat
New Orleans West
Member since Jun 2011
1077 posts
Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:24 pm to
If they try making the Catholic league and Byrd play each other AGAIN in the playoffs, someone should sue to do away with the LHSAA.
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