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Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:44 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:44 am to
Ill have to look at it when in the game was it, something isn't adding up.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:02 am to
Can’t remember, in the second, or possibly in the beginning of the fourth?

It was when Rummel was defending the North end zone.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:23 am to
You’d be surprised how much of that gets caught w 7 person crews
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:44 am to
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Central up 52-10 now good lord

Dutchtown got it to 52-17 with just under four minutes left



AP schools are going to be the big winners in the district reshuffling this year.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:09 am to
Was it a down box mess up?
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:17 am to
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Was it a down box mess up?


I don't know what it was, all I know is, it went from 2nd and 6 to 1'st and 1 after a holding call against HC, and a dead ball PF against Rummel. It just didn't make sense to me how they placed the ball, and didn't move the chains and gave HC a first and 1. If the PF wasn't an auto first down, it should've been 2nd and 1 correct.
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:43 am to
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What channel has the highlight shows?
Here's the LHSAA show that runs after the games.

Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:52 am to
I’m leaning to a down box error
Posted by chinese58
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 10:01 am to
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shite, only good game apparently is Terrebonne/Natchitoches central


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Posted by jdawg
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:01 am to
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HC had the ball on the Rummel 24, they were called for holding, and Rummel had dead ball PF called against them after the play. Officials marked the ball ten yards back to the Rummel 14, then marched it 15 yards to the Rummel 29, and they said it was 1st and 1, not moving the chains. Should it have been first and 1 or first and 10 from the Rummel 29. I've never seen that done before. It was very confusing.


Under National Federation of High School Association rules, the only defensive penalties that carry an automatic first down are roughing the passer and roughing the kicker/holder. Sounds like they got this right.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:04 am to
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Sounds like they got this right.


Well it was neither, so why did they make it 1st and 1?

Should've either been 2nd and 1 or 1st and 10.
Posted by jdawg
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:12 am to
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quote:Sounds like they got this right. Well it was neither, so why did they make it 1st and 1? Should've either been 2nd and 1 or 1st and 10.



If the hold was at the line of scrimmage, the result should’ve been 1st and 5 from the 29. It all depends where the hold was marked.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:16 am to
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the result should’ve been 1st and 5 from the 29.


So why did they give them a first down? Ball didn't cross the line to gain. Holding was on the LOS.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by jdawg
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:21 am to
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So why did they give them a first down? Ball didn't cross the line to gain. Holding was on the LOS.


Think of it as two completely separate penalties. The holding results in a penalty that is enforced and the down is replayed. The personal foul is dead ball and also enforced, but does not carry an automatic first down. So the result of both penalties being enforced will be 1st and whatever the distance is to the original line to gain.
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:27 am to
But it was second down, ball didn't cross the line to gain, and it wasn't roughing the passer or kicker, so why did they make it first down?

The original LOS was on the 20, 1st play they gained 4 yards making it 2nd and 6, is when this crazy down happened. The holding call brought it back to the 14, and the PF call brought it back up to the 29, where the 30 was the line to gain. So why did they give them the 1st down and 1?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:31 am to
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But it was second down, ball didn't cross the line to gain, and it wasn't roughing the passer or kicker, so why did they make it first down?


Clearly the box screwed up and the sideline official didn’t pay attention.
Posted by jdawg
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:31 am to
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But it was second down, ball didn't cross the line to gain, and it wasn't roughing the passer or kicker, so why did they make it first down? The original LOS was on the 20, 1st play they gained 4 yards making it 2nd and 6, is when this crazy down happened. The holding call brought it back to the 14, and the PF call brought it back up to the 29, where the 30 was the line to gain. So why did they give them the 1st down and 1?


I misunderstood. I thought the hold was called on 1st down. I got no answer for you.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:42 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:38 am to
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Clearly the box screwed up and the sideline official didn’t pay attention.


It was crazy, like the officials had their head up their asses all game.

Worst game I've seen called was another Rummel / HC game at Yulman.

Rummel punting, HC has two deep men, one deep guy calls fair catch, the other runs up catches the ball and returns it 50 yards... Official crew huddle up to discuss the call, they throw the flag on HC, but penalize them 15 yards from where the guy was tackled, not where he received the punt.

They actually gave HC two third downs on one particular series in that game, where they scored on the second third down, as well. Monica was livid... and almost got kicked out the game.

I've never seen officials run off the field so fast when that game was over...
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 11:50 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:03 pm to
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Under National Federation of High School Association rules, the only defensive penalties that carry an automatic first down are roughing the passer and roughing the kicker/holder. Sounds like they got this right.
snapper too
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 12:06 pm to
2nd and 1 officials held up two fingers

Wing on box should check it EVERY play as R I do as well.

Box but likely assumed it was automatic first.

Crew should still catch it.
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 12:08 pm
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