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LHSAA High School Playoffs; Home Team Determination
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:49 pm
I know 1st round goes to the highest seed, how is the home team determined in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds?
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:51 pm to CHEDBALLZ
If a team traveled the previous round, they are at home the next round. If both teams were home or both teams traveled then the higher seed is the home team.
ETA: Not 100%, but I believe that's how it is
ETA: Not 100%, but I believe that's how it is
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:04 pm to burdman
Thanks, Just found this on LHSAAs site
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6.13.9 Determining the Home Team: The home team for playoff games shall be determined as follows: 1. First Round of Play A. In the sports of baseball, basketball, football, soccer, softball and volleyball in all classes/divisions, the higher seeded team shall be the home team. B. A “bye” shall be counted as a home game. 2. Second Round of Play A. In the sports of baseball, basketball, football, soccer and volleyball in all classes/divisions: 1. Any team that drew a bye in the first round shall be the home team. 2. The team that traveled in the first round shall be the home team. 3. If both teams traveled or were home teams in the first round, the higher seeded team shall be the home team. B. In the sport of softball, the higher seeded team shall be the home team. Exception: If a team draws a bye. 3. Quarterfinal Round of Play (If played on a home-away basis) A. The team that has traveled more in the first and second rounds shall be the home team. B. If both teams have traveled the same number of times in the first and second rounds, the higher seeded team shall be the home team. 4. Semi-final Round of Play (If played on a home-away basis) - the higher seeded team shall be the home team. 5. At the state championships (in all applicable rounds of play) - the higher seeded team shall be the home team. 6. Opposing schools may, by mutual agreement, reverse a game site. A reversal of the home/away site for any reason shall not affect the criteria cited in the above rules.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:04 pm to CHEDBALLZ
rounds 2 and 3 depends on who has played more home games. If the teams have played the same amount at home, it goes to the higher seed.
Round 4 now goes to the highest seed no matter what. This was new starting last year.
Round 4 now goes to the highest seed no matter what. This was new starting last year.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 4:38 pm to CypressTrout10
That's progress at least with the semifinals using common sense rules. But it's still patently absurd that (hypotetically, of course) an 11-0 team from the New Orleans area has to go to Shreveport in round two just because the 17 "upset" the 16. You don't want to drive 6 hours on a Friday? WIN MORE GAMES.
And this year, you have special cases in EBR, Livingston and Ascension that should have been taken into account. 5A schools like St. Amant and Live Oak have lost over a month of instructional time already this year. And next week there's a scenario where Live Oak would lose a shitload of more instructional time to go to Shreveport if Captain Shreve upsets Parkway. St. Amant still does half-days from 1-5 at Dutchtown because they don't have a school right now, and then they could go to West Monroe in the semis, which means that they will miss another entire day of school. East Ascension missed over 2 weeks of time, and they're going to miss another half a day tomorrow because they're going to Ruston. This might have been a year where they could have done something to minimize travel time, like having north/south pods or brackets.
And this year, you have special cases in EBR, Livingston and Ascension that should have been taken into account. 5A schools like St. Amant and Live Oak have lost over a month of instructional time already this year. And next week there's a scenario where Live Oak would lose a shitload of more instructional time to go to Shreveport if Captain Shreve upsets Parkway. St. Amant still does half-days from 1-5 at Dutchtown because they don't have a school right now, and then they could go to West Monroe in the semis, which means that they will miss another entire day of school. East Ascension missed over 2 weeks of time, and they're going to miss another half a day tomorrow because they're going to Ruston. This might have been a year where they could have done something to minimize travel time, like having north/south pods or brackets.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:24 pm to lsutigers1992
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Live Oak would lose a shitload of more instructional time to go to Shreveport if Captain Shreve upsets Parkway
I don't think you have to worry too much about that.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:38 pm to lsutigers1992
quote:
That's progress at least with the semifinals using common sense rules. But it's still patently absurd that (hypotetically, of course) an 11-0 team from the New Orleans area has to go to Shreveport in round two just because the 17 "upset" the 16. You don't want to drive 6 hours on a Friday? WIN MORE GAMES.
Happened last year and #1 WM got beat by #17 Ponchatoula. Ponchatoula completely dominated in the first half 21-0 and held on 28-21 to advance.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 11/10/16 at 5:47 pm to lsutigers1992
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St. Amant still does half-days from 1-5 at Dutchtown because they don't have a school right now, and then they could go to West Monroe in the semis, which means that they will miss another entire day of school.
Quarterfinals and WM is the 2 seed while St Amant is the 7. Shouldn't St Amant travel to WM if all things are equal?
Also there's pretty much no scenario in which St Amant won't travel to WM in round 3 if both are there. Barbe would have to lose round 1 for St Amant to have any chance to not make that trip
Posted on 11/11/16 at 7:51 am to CHEDBALLZ
The split playoffs are a joke, Pearl River which went winless in district, played Karr (city wide access school in the non-select division) last night.
-Karr scored 6 touchdowns on their first 17 plays.
-Pearl River "tried to slow the Game down by allowing the play clock to tick close to zero"
-Karr played their JV team in the first half. Score was 48-7@ half, the 2nd half they played their freshman team.
According to the newspaper article in Leesville (6-4) would win Karr would have to go play on the road
-Karr scored 6 touchdowns on their first 17 plays.
-Pearl River "tried to slow the Game down by allowing the play clock to tick close to zero"
-Karr played their JV team in the first half. Score was 48-7@ half, the 2nd half they played their freshman team.
According to the newspaper article in Leesville (6-4) would win Karr would have to go play on the road
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:24 am to lsutigers1992
Your point is valid, but the loss of instructional time thing is very minor.
Last year I was at a class C school and we had district games 2.5 hours away. We had to leave early multiple times, the kids make up the work pretty easily.
You could also make the point that the state baseball tourny falls on the same week as finals. That is even worse IMO.
Last year I was at a class C school and we had district games 2.5 hours away. We had to leave early multiple times, the kids make up the work pretty easily.
You could also make the point that the state baseball tourny falls on the same week as finals. That is even worse IMO.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:48 am to CypressTrout10
I hear ya, but baseball absences won't be so widespread. I know St. Amant's case because I know St. Amant parents. First they're on the block, and they're already going to be literally 9 weeks behind when the fall classes end. They already lost 2 1/2 weeks, and their block periods ever since have been cut by like 40 minutes. They cannot make it up in the spring because when you're on the block, your first 4 classes end in December and you take 4 new classes in the spring.
And then with football, half the school will be gone. 100 football players will travel. Cheerleaders will travel. Dance team will travel. Administrators will travel. Coaches will travel. Teachers will take sick days to travel. Parents will keep their kids home to travel. They're going to need like 50 subs. They won't be able to cover classes so the classes that aren't covered will be sent to the gym or cafeteria. It's a wasted day for everyone.
And then with football, half the school will be gone. 100 football players will travel. Cheerleaders will travel. Dance team will travel. Administrators will travel. Coaches will travel. Teachers will take sick days to travel. Parents will keep their kids home to travel. They're going to need like 50 subs. They won't be able to cover classes so the classes that aren't covered will be sent to the gym or cafeteria. It's a wasted day for everyone.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:48 am to TigerintheNO
a shoutout to Mike Labourdette getting a chance and doing work at PR... he was the head coach of St. Bernard High when Katrina hit
Posted on 11/11/16 at 8:58 am to lsutigers1992
quote:something tells me Friday afternoons aren't the best times to be superfocused academically to begin with
It's a wasted day for everyone.
now that being said, they could do more. Regionalize the brackets after you get the playoff teams set, and play more games on Saturday afternoons at 2 P.M. if long travel is involved
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:00 am to lsutigers1992
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And next week there's a scenario where Live Oak would lose a shitload of more instructional time to go to Shreveport if Captain Shreve upsets Parkway.
Actually, they're going to Bossier/Shreveport regardless of the outcome. Parkway is the higher seed, so Live Oak will go there if they win. Captain Shreve is the lower seed, but on the road, so Live Oak would have to go there if they win.
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:02 am to lsutigers1992
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St. Amant still does half-days from 1-5 at Dutchtown because they don't have a school right now,
Dutchtown isn't in the playoffs. Could they possibly swap that day and Dutchtown go from 1-5 while St. Amant takes the morning shift?
Posted on 11/11/16 at 9:23 am to JJ27
Theres too much that goes into that. Bus routes being the biggest issue.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:12 am to CHEDBALLZ
Anyone know what the seating arrangement is in the Dome for the championship games? Is it all General Admission?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 11:20 am to CHEDBALLZ
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Is it all General Admission?
Typically the 2nd level is reserved and the bottom level is GA.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 12:03 pm to JJ27
Thanks.
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