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re: Lebron-where do you rank him on your GOAT list?

Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by Tigerstudent08
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:14 pm to
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I think it's pretty obvious if Lebron wins tomorrow he is the new number 1

BAHA okay i'll take the bait just to ask a question. So if his teammate didn't rebound two of his bricked threes in the last 30 seconds last night and if Ray Allen didn't hit that shot he would not be #1?
Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:16 pm to
I don't how much that graphic shows considering Jordan played in college and Lebron came in straight from high school. Does that give him a four year scoring advantage when you compare them at 28. He should be leading in stats with more years then Jordan at 28.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:18 pm to
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I don't how much that graphic shows considering Jordan played in college and Lebron came in straight from high school. Does that give him a four year scoring advantage when you compare them at 28. He should be leading in stats with more years then Jordan at 28.



So, LeBron gets ridiculed for being in the Finals at the age of 22, and Jordan gets to wait 9 years to get his first ring?

Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:20 pm to
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So, LeBron gets ridiculed for being in the Finals at the age of 22, and Jordan gets to wait 9 years to get his first ring?


I have no problem with Lebron. Everybody is just to caught up with this greatest of all time bs and are to quick to claim it.

The only things I care about are that Lebron is the best player of this generation right now. Jordan was the best player of his generation.

I just looked at those stats and don't think it's a good comparison when one played in college and one didnt.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:22 pm to
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This graphic tells a lot



i learned Kobe has retired.

Neat.
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:27 pm to
Real ballers don't play in college

By the way, moving to Austin next month and I need a new golf buddy. We can talk about the Miami championship during the round if you're down
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:27 pm to
Lebron is dead last on my GOAT list
Posted by Captain Want
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:28 pm to
Do the stats in that graphic also include mention of hand check rules? Take the hand check rules away, and he would have scored even more.
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:28 pm to
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i learned Kobe has retired.

you learned that nobody ever has accomplished what LeBron has by age 28, and it's really not even close
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:29 pm to
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Do the stats in that graphic also include mention of hand check rules? Take the hand check rules away, and he would have scored even more.

You sound like LBJ fans with the excuse bullshite
Posted by Tigerstudent08
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:30 pm to
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So, LeBron gets ridiculed for being in the Finals at the age of 22, and Jordan gets to wait 9 years to get his first ring?

No but you are obviously being selective on how you compare the two players. Why didn't you compare years in the NBA between the two players? Why pick age? The answer to that is because it makes Lebron look better
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:31 pm to
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No but you are obviously being selective on how you compare the two players. Why didn't you compare years in the NBA between the two players? Why pick age? The answer to that is because it makes Lebron look better



Um, hi, I didn't pick the graphic.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:31 pm to
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This graphic tells a lot


aside that he turned 28 during his second title season.
except the fact that LeBron had more seasons played under his belt than Jordan did.

So Jordan had only seven years in won his first title. James was nine years in.

I'm not a LeBron hater, but this age argument is so skewed to the preps-to-pro era favor, it's absurd and shouldn't be brought into discussion.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:31 pm to
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Do the stats in that graphic also include mention of hand check rules? Take the hand check rules away, and he would have scored even more.



Take away man defense and he would have scored even less
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:32 pm to
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you learned that nobody ever has accomplished what LeBron has by age 28, and it's really not even close


LOL!!! There's no rationalizing. Magic won his first championship his rookie year and that was with Kareem getting injured and him playing all six positions in the Finals. LeBron will have time to work on his legacy but he's not in the conversation yet for GOAT
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:32 pm to
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you learned that nobody ever has accomplished what LeBron has by age 28, and it's really not even close

Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:33 pm to
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So, LeBron gets ridiculed for being in the Finals at the age of 22, and Jordan gets to wait 9 years to get his first ring?



It didn't take Jordan nine seasons to win a ring. It did take James that long though.
Jordan took seven
James BBR page


This age argument is ridiculous anyway.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 2:36 pm
Posted by PoppaD
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:35 pm to
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Real ballers don't play in college By the way, moving to Austin next month and I need a new golf buddy. We can talk about the Miami championship during the round if you're down


Oh lord, I know that's sarcasm but that is my point of comparing the different generations. It's not a fair comparison.



I'm down for golf, if you don't mind hearing about the spurs five championships.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:36 pm to
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It didn't take Jordan nine seasons to win a ring.



7 years. Mabad
Posted by NawlinsTigah270
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 2:36 pm to
All I am saying is that LeBron has accomplished more than anybody ever before turning 29, and it's not close at all. If he keeps it up he could be GOAT, but there are a lot of years left in which we can't predict what will happen. It's almost a certainty to say he will end up with more of everything than MJ with the exceptions of titles and finals MVPs (boards, blocks, steals, points, assists, regular season MVPs)
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