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re: Kevin Martin: Most Underrated player in NBA?

Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:35 pm to
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Zach Randolph is one of those players who puts up stats but does nothing to help his team win.


Don't think you've watched him since he's been in Memphis.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:40 pm to
PER isn't +/-.

And the better player isn't decided by who plays better head to head. Derrick Rose had 6 points against the Raptors and Jerryd Bayless, their backup PG, had 20. So is Jerryd Bayless > Derrick Rose? No.

Thanks for disregarding all of those stats I put up for you, though.
Posted by Party At LSU
Member since Nov 2005
11174 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:43 pm to
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Don't think you've watched him since he's been in Memphis.


Got NBA League Pass. I watch a lot of hoops. Again, good stats, good player, but he doesn't add to the cohesiveness of a team or hustle on defense enough to be considered the most underrated player in the league.
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:44 pm to
the only thing Love does better is shoot threes.

Randolph has a better FG%, scores as many points, and plays less minutes.

He's underrated because no one talks about what he's done this year.

Go look at Loves games, he dominates bad teams, and is no where to be seen anytime the other team has a competent 4.

Love is overrated, because the media acts like he's an all-star. He's not. All-Stars win games.

This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 1:46 pm
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:45 pm to
You have no basis for that at all. I gave you stats. Please refute them with something other than your opinion.
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:47 pm to
Ok Kevin Love puts up better stats than Zach Randolph, except when he's playing against Zach randolph in which case he looks like doesn't belong in the NBA.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 1:51 pm to
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Randolph has a better FG%, scores as many points, and plays less minutes.


Love scores more taking less shots. So he's more efficient.

Love 36.6 minutes. Randolph 36.9 minutes. I'll let you decide which is more and which is less.
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:00 pm to
Grizzlies play the T-Wolves again April 2. I'll tune in and watch Zach Randolph completely man handle Kevin Love the entire game.

It will be the third time I've seen it happen this year, but I'll have to remind myself how much better Love is.
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:05 pm to
You can't even refute my arguments when you make up stats.

Winning.
Posted by TouchdownTN
Member since Jun 2009
2609 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:12 pm to
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You can't even refute my arguments when you make up stats.


Only Stat I made up was minutes. I didn't know Kevin Love didn't play that much.

Z-Bo has a higher FG%.

And has completely dominated him head to head, will do it again. But how one player plays against another on multiple occasions has no bearing on whose better.

And neither does winning.

Fight on Kevin. Hopefully you can keep your double - double streak alive, continue to get stroked by the media, and lead your boys to 18 wins this year.

Kevin Love is overrated
This post was edited on 3/2/11 at 2:13 pm
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:20 pm to
Randolph rebounds less because he's a better rebounder too?

Love shoots drastically better from 3, so the FG% is offset. Love scores more points on less shots. He's a more efficient offensive player.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:37 pm to
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Love shoots drastically better from 3, so the FG% is offset.


Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59957 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:41 pm to
Houston's been BALLIN' lately!
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 3/2/11 at 2:44 pm to
Yea I wasn't sure how to put the idea in my head into words.

Basically just that he shoots drastically better from three, so even though Randolph shoots at a higher percentage, Love makes it up by scoring more while taking less shots.
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